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Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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Should this story have a disclaimer that the paper is owned by the founder of Amazon, who is a competitor?

> who is a competitor It is? In which markets?

Amazon owns twitch and Facebook runs Facebook gaming which is a direct competitor.

Amazon Prime video is also an indirect competitor to other time wasting products like social media apps / video sharing etc.

edit: Also don't forget data collection / AI / advertising.

Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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Where does the Republican angle come in to it?

FTA:

"The firm is one of the biggest recipients of Republican campaign spending, earning more than $237 million in 2020, according to data compiled by OpenSecrets. Its biggest payments came from national GOP congressional committees and America First Action, a pro-Trump super PAC."

Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good luck explaining to your boss that you can't fill the hiring rec because, even though you found qualified candidates, you disliked the fact that they had the audacity to be employed by a tech company you don't like and so they're "tainted". In expectation it's better for the business to lay you off and get someone not ideologically possessed to do hiring, in the same way it's better for the business to not have r…

It is not at all similar to racism, and you should not pretend corporate dehumanising is something to be expected or even logical. These demands are wrong and we are correct to talk about them as such.

Being unable to find the best candidates because you have racial prejudices or prejudices towards anyone with prior employment at the F in FAANG are both bad for business. You have a massive systematic blind spot that will make your company less competitive relative to peers because you have a personal ax to grind.

I might add that prior employment at Facebook is very positively correlated with engineering talent -- you are not just selecting against something orthogonal to engineering talent, you are actually selecting against something that indicates they are a good engineer, meaning you have a smaller labor force you are willing to hire and a lower quality one. Go tell HR and your boss that you have prejudices against people from Facebook and you are going to discriminate against them in hiring as a consequence, see how well that goes for you.

Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Carmack lost a lot of his shine working at Facebook. He was a champion of an industry when he was young, but now he's just some guy helping further entrench Facebook.

Didn't he leave Facebook years ago shortly after basically being aquired along with oculus?

He still consults for Facebook and is still a big Meta booster, see this from just a few months ago: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/10/john-carmack-sounds-a...

Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

#77
Serious question, for those with more experience than me “in the game” running big successful companies: are dirty tactics like this (and worse) par for the course and generally expected, and it’s sort of understood that the outsiders/general public are shielded from it? Or is it actually shocking?

It often seems like there’s two “worlds” operating at the same time. In one, there’s outrage and indignation at this sort of thing. In the other, that public outrage is just another item in the chess game, to be weaponised against your competitors as appropriate. But maybe that’s too pessimistic of a view, and not all industries are like this? I’m genuinely curious.

Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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Isn't this what all firms do to each other, all the time? Like, isn't this just normal business these days? Isn't this sort of thing a natural eventuality in a capitalist world? Capitalism crowns the person who wins, regardless of how they won. And besides, all press is good press because it's all exposure. Why wouldn't you do this sort of thing? It's only wrong to get caught. And even then, you can pay for a lawyer…

The 'yellow peril' aspect of it was certainly disgusting.

What "yellow peril"?

Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> who is a competitor It is? In which markets?

Amazon owns twitch and Facebook runs Facebook gaming which is a direct competitor. Amazon Prime video is also an indirect competitor to other time wasting products like social media apps / video sharing etc. edit: Also don't forget data collection / AI / advertising.

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