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Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by Tenoke »

technobabbler wrote: post #39
bitcharmer wrote: post #3

Like most films directed by Dennis Villeneuve I found Dune to be a work of art and visual masterpiece. His recount of how they prepared the set and the scene for the Gom Jabar ritual just shows how commited he is and how much passion he puts into his work. Absolute delight to watch. https://youtu.be/GoAA0sYkLI0

It was really beautiful but the pacing was horrible for modern attention spams. I loved the movie, but only because I read way too many of the books and played all the games and watched every Dune before it. My partner had no idea what was going on and fell asleep 1/3 of the way through... even though she is normally a movie completionist. That dude had a certain style, cinematic intellectualism with beautiful cinema…

>It was really beautiful but the pacing was horrible for modern attention spams.

It's also pretty horrible from past audiences' point of view given that they'd expect to see more than a prologue in a 155m film. Villenueve makes truly beautiful movies but it comes at a cost.

Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by somat »

V__ wrote: post #16

> Editor’s Note: The claims in this paper have not been verified because the researchers have refused to yield their full dataset and methodology, citing “intellectual property rights,” “the sanctity of the First Amendment,” and “the Wright brothers never had to show their work.” We are publishing their paper here because they won’t stop mailing hard copies in triplicate to our homes and offices. Love it.

But... The Wright brothers did show their work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkpQAGQiv4Q

https://www.loc.gov/collections/wilbur-and-orville-wright-pa...

Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by gunshai »

technobabbler wrote: post #39
bitcharmer wrote: post #3

Like most films directed by Dennis Villeneuve I found Dune to be a work of art and visual masterpiece. His recount of how they prepared the set and the scene for the Gom Jabar ritual just shows how commited he is and how much passion he puts into his work. Absolute delight to watch. https://youtu.be/GoAA0sYkLI0

It was really beautiful but the pacing was horrible for modern attention spams. I loved the movie, but only because I read way too many of the books and played all the games and watched every Dune before it. My partner had no idea what was going on and fell asleep 1/3 of the way through... even though she is normally a movie completionist. That dude had a certain style, cinematic intellectualism with beautiful cinema…

I hear this criticism a fair amount. I felt the polar opposite. I felt like Dune was made for me. I really enjoy that engrossing feeling of scale(both visually and aurally) that I am constantly bombarded by.

I am glad that a film like that can even be made these days given that I think you're right about modern attention spans.

Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by bhaak »

hhmc wrote: post #65
waffl wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The German word for 'time' is 'Zeit', so that would be 'Zeitgeist' :)

Wouldn't want to leave the joke unexplained now, would we

waffl is likely a German speaker. So of course not.

German speakers also can't resist replying to rhetorical questions.

Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by cturtle »

yummypaint wrote: post #29

Would love to see more satire like this for different research areas. It's just subtle enough that the realization builds slowly, like reading one of those internet stories that ends with pulling up in bel-aire.

If you haven't already seen it, you may enjoy SIGBOVIK, The Association for Computational Heresy [0]. An annual conference mostly focused on computer science, but any field is welcome. I immediately thought of SIGBOVIK when reading this paper.

[0]: http://www.sigbovik.org/

Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by rado »

magicalhippo wrote: post #43
eganist wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a hot take. What didn't you like about it, specifically? Aside from the best score ever made by Hans Zimmer?

While I loved the overall production, for me the choice of actors for several of the side characters actually made it feel like a more generic Hollywood action movie. For me it had been better to pick less well-used actors than Jason Momoa, Josh Brolin, Javier Bardem etc. Just robbed it of some of the mystique I think.

Jason Momoa was 100% Jason Momoa. His (lack of) characterisation was so bad I stared at his scenes in disbelief.

Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by eganist »

tokai wrote: post #42
eganist wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a hot take. What didn't you like about it, specifically? Aside from the best score ever made by Hans Zimmer?

It has always weirded me out that Zimmer keeps getting jobs. His overly pathetic drone has always been like a parody soundtrack. But people plays it straight as if he is actually making something that adds to the movies. Dune was peak Zimmer so if you like him I guess it makes sense to call it his best. But to me it was him making fun of himself with a straightface and nobody calls him out on it.

Please give this a watch with an open mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93A1ryc-WW0

I promise it's worth your time. Being honest, I fell in love with the score before I even knew it was Zimmer's, and once I found out, my first thought was "of course."

To each their own, but if you want an idea of what went into the score, that video above is insightful.

Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by rado »

eganist wrote: post #13
rado wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It got progressively bad and by the end the director's touch was nowhere to be seen, just rushing to finish the story and blasting that overbearing Hans Zimmer score. Then the final line "This is only the beginning" came. Meanwhile, “Blade Runner”, “Arrival”, “Prisoners”, “Sicario” are all great.

That's a hot take. What didn't you like about it, specifically? Aside from the best score ever made by Hans Zimmer?

The first half was about world building. It was atmospheric and interesting, however elusive. Right in the middle when the s** hit the fan, the film started sinking in the quicksand of plotting and by the end the director was MIA. The second half was so Hollywood I felt it was written by Kathleen Kennedy.
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