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Re: Plain Text Sports

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Post by stephenhandley »

CodeIsTheEnd wrote: post #27

Hey, HN! Creator here! I started building Plain Text Sports last year when I was watching an NFL playoff game in rural southwest Wisconsin. We had poor TV reception -- the image was going in-and-out -- and the local radio station was mostly static. I tried to check ESPN, but the loading bar was as frozen as the ground outside. I then had the idea for a website designed for the pure sports fan: no ads, no images, just…

This is awesome. Do you mind sharing the json data source you're using for the NBA data?

Re: Plain Text Sports

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Post by abcanthur »

throwaway1777 wrote: post #54
abcanthur wrote: post #37

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Great site, I've been using it for months. It's a really different and richer experience at night when the games are in progress. There are added features for the big leagues, such as the NBA games feature a game flow graph of the scoring margin. It truly shines when you're at a sold out NBA game, you can barely get a tweet out due to the crowd size, but you can still refresh the box score of your own game in <second…

That is very neat, and great use of a low bandwidth style site. On the other hand at the NBA games I’ve been to they have the box score on the jumbotron.

true, but usually only for players currently on the court and who knows what direction you'll have to rubberneck to read it. This is one instance where I like mixing the small mobile screen w my real world view, it's an augmented reality!

Re: Plain Text Sports

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Post by CodeIsTheEnd »

modo_ wrote: post #66
CodeIsTheEnd wrote: post #27

Hey, HN! Creator here! I started building Plain Text Sports last year when I was watching an NFL playoff game in rural southwest Wisconsin. We had poor TV reception -- the image was going in-and-out -- and the local radio station was mostly static. I tried to check ESPN, but the loading bar was as frozen as the ground outside. I then had the idea for a website designed for the pure sports fan: no ads, no images, just…

wow small world- you have a poster up in your window with the URL, right? i think you live around the corner from me!

I sure do! Knock if you ever want some stickers!

Re: Plain Text Sports

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Post by CJefferson »

altairprime wrote: post #61
CJefferson wrote: post #38

This does look really nice, and the author should be proud, however I wanted to make a general comment (which isn't a critism of this website). If you aim is to help people who want pure text-based interfaces (the blind in particular), this is much worse than a proper HTML page, which they can easily explore by headers. Well-formed HTML is actually one of the most accessible formats, and drawing boxes with CSS (rathe…

To clarify: Are you indicating that, as a user dependent on screen readers, that this site is difficult to use for you? Do other users who depend on screen readers have an experience they’re willing to share about visiting this site?

As someone with friends who use screen readers, I notice when sites are close, but not quite there. Many websites are just a lost cause, but this is very close to very accessible :)

The main limitation is it would be nice if the sections were labelled, either with a , or , to make it easier to jump around the page.

The ascii art gets read, which is a bit annoying, aria-hidden="true" will make the ascii art not get read out as text.

The best option is to try out with a screen reader -- on both windows + mac a decent screen reader is built in (it's worth best with the default browser, safari on mac, edge on windows). I'm not expert on screen reading on Linux.

Re: Plain Text Sports

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Post by remram »

lelandfe wrote: post #69
TAKEMYMONEY wrote: post #50

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How do you persist zoom settings for every website across browsers and devices?

Every major browser has default zoom settings which will apply to all sites. For example: Chrome: Settings > Appearance > Page zoom Firefox: Settings > General > Zoom iOS Safari: Settings > Safari > Page Zoom > Other Websites

A default zoom setting that is global to the browser does not in any way fix the problem of different websites using different font sizes.

Re: Plain Text Sports

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Post by lelandfe »

remram wrote: post #76
lelandfe wrote: post #69

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Every major browser has default zoom settings which will apply to all sites. For example: Chrome: Settings > Appearance > Page zoom Firefox: Settings > General > Zoom iOS Safari: Settings > Safari > Page Zoom > Other Websites

A default zoom setting that is global to the browser does not in any way fix the problem of different websites using different font sizes.

It does if you have a huge screen or feel that all sites' fonts are too small, right? Anyway, every browser I use also persists zoom settings chosen for each site.

Re: Plain Text Sports

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Post by adhesive_wombat »

altairprime wrote: post #61
CJefferson wrote: post #38

This does look really nice, and the author should be proud, however I wanted to make a general comment (which isn't a critism of this website). If you aim is to help people who want pure text-based interfaces (the blind in particular), this is much worse than a proper HTML page, which they can easily explore by headers. Well-formed HTML is actually one of the most accessible formats, and drawing boxes with CSS (rathe…

To clarify: Are you indicating that, as a user dependent on screen readers, that this site is difficult to use for you? Do other users who depend on screen readers have an experience they’re willing to share about visiting this site?

This is something that frustrates me: it's actually really hard to design for screenreaders because it's hard to actually check the results in a free/volunteer context. So you often just have to just hope you're being "semantic" enough.

And I did try to use Orca but I just could not get it to work, the TTS service was sulkily disinclined to accept any requests.

Re: Plain Text Sports

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Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 »

CJefferson wrote: post #38

This does look really nice, and the author should be proud, however I wanted to make a general comment (which isn't a critism of this website). If you aim is to help people who want pure text-based interfaces (the blind in particular), this is much worse than a proper HTML page, which they can easily explore by headers. Well-formed HTML is actually one of the most accessible formats, and drawing boxes with CSS (rathe…

Why not also include an audio file generated from the text of the page with TTS.
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