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A 9-line summary of textbook physics

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Re: A 9-line summary of textbook physics

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I've read a few times that you can derive the Maxwell equations from knowing that U(1) exists, as this article implies, that every point in space has (among other things) the symmetry of a circle. But I've never seen this derivation. I assume it's either trivial or too complicated. Anyone has a link or thoughts on this?

I wrote an ELI25 explanation in a comment a few months ago, and I'll copy it here:

In quantum mechanics the wave function Ψ is has complex values. If you multiply everything in the universe by -1, nothing changes because all the physical results use ΨΨ* (where * is the complex conjugation). You can also multiply everything by i or -i. Moreover by any other complex number of modulo 1 because ΨΨ* does not change. (The technical term for this is U(1) global gauge symmetry.)

But you can be more ambitious and want to multiply each point of the universe by a different complex number of modulo 1. ΨΨ* does not change but the derivatives of Ψ change and they are also important. (When you use the same complex number everywhere, the derivatives is just a multiple of the original derivative. When you use a different number in each point, it changes.)

The only way to fix the problem with the derivative is to add a new field A. When you and multiply each point of the universe by a different complex number of modulo 1, then A changes in a simple to calculate but not obvious way. The change in A fix the problem with the derivatives of Ψ.

So now the equations of the universe with Ψ and A don't change when you make this change. (The technical term for this is U(1) local gauge symmetry.) When you write carefully how a universe like this look like, the new field A is electromagnetism. (Actually, you can get the electric field and magnetic field using the derivatives of A.)

Too many more details in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_electrodynamics#Mathem...

> I assume it's either trivial or too complicated.

It's trivial once you have 3 or 4 years studding Physics, but you will never understand how it is related to the magnets in your refrigerator. [There are like 5 simplification steps between U(1) and magnets in the refrigerator. Each one makes sense, but I can't see all of them together in my head.]

Re: A 9-line summary of textbook physics

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For deriving special and general relativity, see https://www.motionmountain.net/maximumforce.html The page also cites the papers proving the statement.

That page has zero words about actually deriving anything.

See Physical Review D 104 (2021) 124079. Html page is updated.

Re: A 9-line summary of textbook physics

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This is satire right? You might be getting downvotes because it’s not clear if you’re serious, and those claims seem quite ridiculous at face value.

What is ridiculous?

The 9-lines thing.

May've just drawn a circle and claimed that it describes all of science.

Re: A 9-line summary of textbook physics

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Author says "In particular, never, ever, learn from the internet", but then author makes a website teaching things. Hmm

The site is an advertisement for his books. I think he's just old fashioned and believes learning from physical paper books is superior. He even has a link at the bottom of his site that says "Paper book lovers."

But we have studied learning and how memories are formed. I hate when people make stuff up because it worked for them it must work for everyone. Things like spaced repetition and Khan academy are completely valid ways to learn.

Re: A 9-line summary of textbook physics

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What is ridiculous?

The 9-lines thing. May've just drawn a circle and claimed that it describes all of science.

If the 9 lines are wrong, just show it... Thousands of scientists are trying the same since 50 years.

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Social 'scientists'? Your turn :)

You're assuming free will isn't some complex-looking behavior driven by quantum uncertainty. In the multiverse, every social scientist has many clones who's studies refute their work!

Even if that is so, a quantum description of human behavior is fairly useless in terms of practical application. How does knowledge of the standard model cure the infirm, prevent crime, and so forth?

Re: A 9-line summary of textbook physics

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> About 18 particles > About 25 numbers Excellent science here!

https://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/constants.html the mass of the up quark the mass of the down quark the mass of the charmed quark the mass of the strange quark the mass of the top quark the mass of the bottom quark 4 numbers for the Kobayashi-Maskawa matrix the mass of the electron the mass of the electron neutrino the mass of the muon the mass of the mu neutrino the mass of the tau the mass of the tau neutrino 4 numbe…

^—— “How Many Fundamental Constants Are There?” by John Baez

Re: A 9-line summary of textbook physics

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Why do the first chapters of all physics textbook ONLY talk about Greek philosophers and scientists and NEVER talk about contribution to Science from eastern civilization like India and China ? These civilizations have a very rich heritage and astounding contribution to many underlying scientific philosophies. Yet generation after generation of writers ignore them and it is sad to see that being true even today. It i…

can you recommend me some good books on China and India's contributions to Science please?

Do you read a lot about the history of science? Which books would you recommend?

Re: A 9-line summary of textbook physics

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 9-lines thing. May've just drawn a circle and claimed that it describes all of science.

If the 9 lines are wrong, just show it... Thousands of scientists are trying the same since 50 years.

It's not that they're "wrong" so much as that they're incoherent and largely non-sense.

Sorry if that seems harsh, just.. this looks like someone's having some sort of crisis. It's worrisome.

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> This pdf file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 Germany Licence, whose full text can be found on the website creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/de, with the additional restriction that reproduction, distribution and use, in whole or in part, in any product or service, be it commercial or not, is not allowed without the written consent of the copyright ow…

Yes it does.
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