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Why I love Formula 1 (and why you might like it too)

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Re: Why I love Formula 1 (and why you might like it too)

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good old days where people dying was a part of the sport.

By the 80s, F1 safety had improved significantly and the fatal accident rate was on par with today’s rate. The 50s and 60s held significantly higher danger to participants.

Yes. But the parent comment mentioned rallying. Group B was during 80s.

Re: Why I love Formula 1 (and why you might like it too)

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post #63

F1, from an excitement point of view, suffers from the same issue as European footie: unequal budgets. Every team is only really judged against how much resource they brought. Witness Man Utd, everyone is saying what an awful season they're having. They're in 5th place. Watch an F1 race and it's the same, everyone is on a money ladder and are doing well when they're up a little based on where you expect from their bu…

There are now quite reasonable budget caps ($145m last year, $140m this year, $135m next year). This is about a third to a quarter of what Ferrari, Mercedes, and Red Bull were spending per year prior to the cap. Also, freezing the power unit formula until 2025 has evened the playing field on that front. All of the PUs have as close of parity as they have in the turbo hybrid era. Lastly, the new 2022 car regs have the…

> Also, freezing the power unit formula until 2025 has evened the playing field on that front. All of the PUs have as close of parity as they have in the turbo hybrid era.

I think this is speculation, and we wont actually know if this is true until tomorrow & Sunday.

Re: Why I love Formula 1 (and why you might like it too)

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> A Formula 1 race weekend is never boring: even when a specific team or driver is a clear favorite

F1 weekends are frequently extremely boring. They are 3 day long events where you're waiting for moments that last seconds and more than often don't occur. Confirmation bias tends to make people think F1 is an exciting thing, and the owners of the sport would like to keep it that way.

I spent the last decade shooting a photo project on this very thing, that F1 is actually pretty mundane, visiting 25 races in the process: https://www.formulanon.com/ # I'd followed the sport for 20 years prior to that, so had run out of enthusiasm for it, the project kept that interest going for a little while longer.

Re: Why I love Formula 1 (and why you might like it too)

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post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By the 80s, F1 safety had improved significantly and the fatal accident rate was on par with today’s rate. The 50s and 60s held significantly higher danger to participants.

Yes. But the parent comment mentioned rallying. Group B was during 80s.

You’re right. I misread the threading indents on mobile and anchored yours one-up.

Re: Why I love Formula 1 (and why you might like it too)

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

80's and 90's was the golden age of many sports like boxing, rallying and football (the international one)

Good old days where people dying was a part of the sport.

“There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.”

― Ernest Hemingway

Re: Why I love Formula 1 (and why you might like it too)

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I find Formula 1 boring. I think it is overreglemented. All cars are basically the same, and at the same time there are huge differences between the cars, if that makes sense. Only a few teams have a chance of winning. But the time differences are often fractions of a second. And the teams are nowadays mostly unlikable.

What I'd like to see is a race with more variation, and surprises. The only rules should be something like:

- The car must cost less than, say, $1 million in material

- The plans must be opened to competitors after some time

- You have to take care of the drivers' safety

And then just get from A to B or do the laps by any means necessary. The race courses would change regularly, so you would have to build new cars. One year they would be very curvy, next year they are short and straight so you need better acceleration, another year there are short stretches of rallye, and so on. I think that would lead to some very interesting cars. And it would shift the focus away from the shaving milliseconds aspect that I find so boring with modern sports, back to the exploratory feeling I imagine motorsports used to have.

Re: Why I love Formula 1 (and why you might like it too)

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I find Formula 1 boring. I think it is overreglemented. All cars are basically the same, and at the same time there are huge differences between the cars, if that makes sense. Only a few teams have a chance of winning. But the time differences are often fractions of a second. And the teams are nowadays mostly unlikable. What I'd like to see is a race with more variation, and surprises. The only rules should be someth…

I understand the appeal of constrictive environment of rules, but what would we get to see if there are no rules or there's only:

- no weapons - no deliberate damage of opponents

or maybe even without those. We might get real life version of wipeout.

Re: Why I love Formula 1 (and why you might like it too)

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My favourite parts of F1 are the parts which don't occur anywhere near a track. The ingenious rule bending which goes into trying to get an advantage and the politics when people try to get it banned. Things like the f-duct where a driver used the back of their hand to close a passage which reduced the areodynamics drag of the rear wing because movable surfaces aren't allowed; the two pedal system which allowed diffe…

I completely agree. Some of the most entertaining engineering Olympics.

The best part about the fan example [1] is that they claimed it was there for "cooling" purposes.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brabham_BT46

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