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Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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I have been on HN for years now. I don't recall anything in particular that would fall into "The Clinton stuff". What are you talking about?

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Norm Macdonald knew all about it! Classic segment from The View [1].

"I thought it was a matter of record!"

[1]: https://youtu.be/Z3PP_SWHUQQ?t=93

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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Information dissemination must be similar to fluid dynamics. It just has to be. It’s simpler and more insidious than that. I’ll use the old Eleanor Roosevelt quote: "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." Most people are not that intellectual and probably spent most of their life gossiping. They wouldn’t know how to even discuss certain topics if the low hanging fruit of…

You just spread "Fake News" about Eleanor Roosevelt: See: https://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/11/18/great-minds/

It was on the back of my mind, I remember hearing this :p

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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I always find it interesting to watch the trickle down of news I find here on HN. I live in a very, very, very conservative part of the US. It always goes the same; see fake thing called out for being fake on HN. One week later, hear rumblings related to the fake thing in my community. One week after that, hear people openly talking about how that fake thing is true, but Google/MSM don't want you to hear about it. Su…

> Zelensky is a nazi,

He's not a Nazi, of course, him being of Jewish ancestry, but it did raise some questions for me when a Russian bomb (that killed about 20 civilians) did its thing in Kyiv very close to a boulevard named after Bandera. Bandera is of course a war criminal and a Nazi collaborator. That thing with a Kyiv boulevard being named after a war criminal and a Nazi collaborator you don't see in the MSM. The bombing took place here [1], you can see the Bandera-named avenue just close by.

[1] https://www.google.com/maps/place/50%C2%B029'19.1%22N+30%C2%...

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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This seems unnecessarily elitist. I mean, I would be glad if I could get away with just discussing theory and ideas, but reality and practical matters gets in the way. We vote for people, we evaluate people from events.

Exactly. We elect people not ideas.

This is highly debatable.

Politicians generally channel ideas in order to get elected - and then screw everyone over once they have power for 4 years.

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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I always find it interesting to watch the trickle down of news I find here on HN. I live in a very, very, very conservative part of the US. It always goes the same; see fake thing called out for being fake on HN. One week later, hear rumblings related to the fake thing in my community. One week after that, hear people openly talking about how that fake thing is true, but Google/MSM don't want you to hear about it. Su…

> I always find it interesting to watch the trickle down of news I find here on HN. I live in a very, very, very conservative part of the US. It always goes the same; see fake thing called out for being fake on HN. One week later, hear rumblings related to the fake thing in my community. One week after that, hear people openly talking about how that fake thing is true, but Google/MSM don't want you to hear about it.

The the root cause for that is probably the extreme distrust of the "MSM" that's been cultivated for decades. The ironic thing is many of the rank-and-file of those people think that distrust gives them greater access to the truth, when in reality it just makes them easier to lie to.

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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The quality on this is really awful. Lighting mismatch on the neck, no atmospheric effects, voice sounds robotic, very little movement and it’s unnatural. It’s not even a useful PoC. It’s more like a meme. I think if it actually got some traction in mainstream media - like Marina Ovsyannikova’s fake Twitter account which was quoted by journos, then you could call it a legitimate first.

I doubt that the average person will know it’s fake unless you tell them, at least not from the quality (maybe they’ll doubt he would ever surrender)

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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The Clinton stuff is really funny. HN is not really the place for heated political commentary but there is deep irony there with regards to how a certain portion of the population responds to criticism of Trump and his policies (lately, mostly surrounding Ukraine and denying them aid) and how often they bring up the Clintons.

I have been on HN for years now. I don't recall anything in particular that would fall into "The Clinton stuff". What are you talking about?

Christopher Hitchens wrote a book about the Clintons that was pretty scathing. It has a lot of what I assume is the "Clinton Stuff"

https://www.amazon.com/One-Left-Lie-Triangulations-Jefferson...

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