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Pardon my crudity, but is there a reason to not build a bunch of nuclear power plants + carbon suckers powered by electricity?
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Why is it difficult to build housing there? There's a housing crisis in most Tier 1 European cities.
There is practically no lumber to harvest.[0] [0] https://ign.ku.dk/english/about/arboreta/arboretum-greenland...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qinngua_Valley
Lumber is imported. Mostly from Denmark, if I'm reading this chart correctly:
https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/Country/GRL/Yea...
At the same time Arctic is having close to record high ice coverage: https://weather.co/analysis/arctic-sea-ice-extent-second-hig... Can it simply be some natural cycle that makes the ice cap shift from one pole to the other?
[1] http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/files/2022/03/Figure3.png
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The scientists know this. Paleoclimatology is one big part of climatology. But the outcome is the opposite - you should be more scared, since it shows that climate can change massively. That affects things like agriculture or sea level. What would you assume the sea level was, when those plants were alive? For example, with very quick search: "In general, world oceans were about 100 to 200 metres (330 to 660 feet) hi…
Okay, I'd like to respond to this, " ... you should be more scared, " Can you reason to that position? Here is how I see it, and perhaps that will make my position more clear. I'm going to die (so are you). Every year, the probability that I'm going to die in the next year goes up bit by bit. I don't expect to read articles that continually harp on "look how close to death you are, are you sure you don't want to eat…
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I just went looking for a map to see how different coastlines would look with a 200m sea level rise. It's, unsurprisingly, significant!! https://www.floodmap.net/
Interesting that even at a ridiculous, unprecedented 500m sea level rise, there are still substantial areas of dry land. It would be a radically different world, and a smaller one for us land based animals, but it doesn’t seem outlandish that civilization could persist.
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Okay, I'd like to respond to this, " ... you should be more scared, " Can you reason to that position? Here is how I see it, and perhaps that will make my position more clear. I'm going to die (so are you). Every year, the probability that I'm going to die in the next year goes up bit by bit. I don't expect to read articles that continually harp on "look how close to death you are, are you sure you don't want to eat…
> the most recent IPCC report basically says, "We're fucked, its gonna happen now no matter what." More precisely, that climate change is going to happen no matter what. Yes, that's true. But the report does not say we cannot adapt to climate change. It only says we can't stop it from happening. We should be thinking about how to adapt--which is just the large scale equivalent of you wearing a seat belt, looking both…
"If there's one thing the history of evolution has taught us, it's that life will not be contained. Life breaks free, it expands to new territories, and crashes through barriers painfully, maybe even dangerously, but, uh, well, there it is."
That change is going to probably hurt a lot more than looking left or right.
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Well if California goes, we might as well all pack up, civilisation is over.
Okay. So what do you think will happen when a significant chunk of the United States economic power is under water?
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was always curious about how below sea level works there, how much sea rise does it take before death valley becomes the new dead sea?
That is a flaw with this site, it seems to "fill in" Death Valley even with no change in sea level. The best way to read the map is to look at what new blue areas are connected to oceans, rivers, and seas. If they aren't, then it's unlikely they will be flooded as illustrated in the map at that new sea level. Death Valley, to go with that, is still detached from any oceans or rivers until almost a 600 m sea level ris…
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> the most recent IPCC report basically says, "We're fucked, its gonna happen now no matter what." More precisely, that climate change is going to happen no matter what. Yes, that's true. But the report does not say we cannot adapt to climate change. It only says we can't stop it from happening. We should be thinking about how to adapt--which is just the large scale equivalent of you wearing a seat belt, looking both…
While you're not wrong regarding adaption, to quote a fictional chaostician: "If there's one thing the history of evolution has taught us, it's that life will not be contained. Life breaks free, it expands to new territories, and crashes through barriers painfully, maybe even dangerously, but, uh, well, there it is." That change is going to probably hurt a lot more than looking left or right.
It would hurt less if we'd spent the last couple of decades thinking and talking about adaptation, and taking steps in that direction, instead of wringing our hands. Or, for that matter, if more coastal cities and nations had acted like the Netherlands, who have been managing sea level rise for more than four centuries now (an excellent example of what adaptation can accomplish), instead of like, for example, the city of Miami, which has had drainage issues for decades and has done nothing about them.
If the temperature drop becomes inevitable, I wonder if it'd be worthwhile to just colonize Antarctica to make up for the lost landmass elsewhere. Maybe it's time to have more than scientists living there.
