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Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by Shared404 »

corndoge wrote: post #67
Shared404 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Sorry to shit on this, but NewPipe sucks. In my experience it's a waste of time to try and use it as a YT client replacement. Hard disagree. NewPipe is the only way I use youtube on mobile. > It barely works, if at all. Casting definitely never ever worked for me, not even once. Because casting requires usage of Google API's and NewPipe is privacy oriented. It's not broken, it's as intended. > The user experience i…

> Because casting requires usage of Google API's and NewPipe is privacy oriented. Do you happen to have a link to a GitHub issue or some other background? I'd like to learn more about this, I was under the impression cast-type devices (including Chromecast) usually implement DLNA which should be interface-able without any proprietary APIs. This is just from vague readings and recollections though.

I read a somewhat long discussion on it a while ago on Github, I'll edit when I find it.

Found it! The discussion was regarding Chromecast specifically,so I don't know about other cast setups.

Also is from Nov 2021, so possibly out of date at this point?

I've linked to the concluding comment here, I found the whole chain worth reading however:

https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe/issues/668#issuecomme...

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

#73

Post by metadat »

corndoge wrote: post #67
Shared404 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Sorry to shit on this, but NewPipe sucks. In my experience it's a waste of time to try and use it as a YT client replacement. Hard disagree. NewPipe is the only way I use youtube on mobile. > It barely works, if at all. Casting definitely never ever worked for me, not even once. Because casting requires usage of Google API's and NewPipe is privacy oriented. It's not broken, it's as intended. > The user experience i…

> Because casting requires usage of Google API's and NewPipe is privacy oriented. Do you happen to have a link to a GitHub issue or some other background? I'd like to learn more about this, I was under the impression cast-type devices (including Chromecast) usually implement DLNA which should be interface-able without any proprietary APIs. This is just from vague readings and recollections though.

The newPipe app did identify the usual cast targets on my local network, but everything went downhill from there. It's a shame that this sort of nonsense has wasted the time of many a user and not contributed to a happy new eco system.

Maybe now that Vanced is toast, someone will step up and lay the pipe into newPipe to get it working properly? Is this just wishful thinking? We need a hero..

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

#74

Post by chrysoprace »

fuckcensorship wrote: post #2

NewPipe [1] is an open-source alternative, although latest versions of Vanced will supposedly keep working for the foreseeable future [2]. [1]: https://newpipe.net/ [2]: https://nitter.net/YTVanced/status/1503055442506915846#m

As others have noted, NewPipe lacks a lot of functionality, polish, and just generally breaks far too frequently. I'm in the tech industry so I can deal with the app breaking occasionally, but during my stint using it, it was almost every month that it broke. My girlfriend who has some technical knowledge just gave up on it because it was too frustrating that it kept breaking, and not only that, the devs urged users to download from GitHub instead of F-Droid.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

#75

Post by indigodaddy »

I pay for YTM, so haven’t ever tried any of these Adblocking things for YT. I think $10/mo is pretty decent for a music service and also the removal of all ads from YT (which includes their fairly decent library of free movies that would be ad-supported without YTM/YTP)

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

#76

Post by andy_ppp »

sphars wrote: post #10
fuckcensorship wrote: post #2

NewPipe [1] is an open-source alternative, although latest versions of Vanced will supposedly keep working for the foreseeable future [2]. [1]: https://newpipe.net/ [2]: https://nitter.net/YTVanced/status/1503055442506915846#m

I use NewPipe frequently. It's rumored that Vanced was sent a cease and desist (which seems pretty likely). Out of curiosity, what are the chances that NewPipe will face the same fate?

I find it so irritating that Google essentially exists as a giant scraping system and they have the legal ability to persecute anyone taking content hosted on their platforms. Hypocrisy should be a legal defence in my opinion, i.e. if you take public content and repurpose it for your own needs you shouldn’t be allowed to sue for the same reason.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by izacus »

nextaccountic wrote: post #48
izacus wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There isn't really a "source code" per-se for Vanced, they took the official YouTube app, decompiled it, applied hacks and recompiled it - pretty much very much the same way we hacked key checks and CD copy protections back in the day. So if there's anything resembling source, it's more of a diff of a certain YouTube app version you can't just cleanly upload somewhere or even apply to new versions.

But the source for the hacks could be made open, so that other people could work on it.

How would that (legally and technically) work exactly? And how would you defend even the hacks themselves against DMCA?

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by jesprenj »

dymk wrote: post #61
nextaccountic wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But the source for the hacks could be made open, so that other people could work on it.

Good way to get a bunch of lawyers at your door

And distributing a premade APK is somehow not a Good way to get a bunch of lawyers at your door?
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