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Re: Stripe Crypto

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Slight tangent: Maybe it’s just me, but I’m somewhat uncomfortable with the label “crypto” being co-opted as official shorthand for cryptocurrencies. I see how it’s a natural truncation of a long term, but to many of us the word crypto can mean many other things. When I saw the headline, I wondered if they had released their own cryptographic library or something else to that effect.

It's unfortunate, but what would be a good alternative?

Re: Stripe Crypto

#73
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Happy to see you’re taking this approach now Dang. It’s really killed a lot of threads and I hope conversations can now go up a level to the technical uses rather than generic ‘ponzi scheme’ claims.

This technology does not work as designed, advertised and towards the environment. And this announcement is an endorsement of the entire space which is full of scams, is this what you are also endorsing?

I've left the field of crypto/blockchain but worked on a few projects such as the Cardano blockchain. Now I'm focusing on effective altruism and food security. Anyway, I've been aware or involved with the crypto space since 2014 when I used to play a drinking game involving the Bitcoin ATM at Google Campus in London (guessing if the price would go up or down when it updated every minute or so, around the $300 mark if I remember correctly). In that time I've worked for several different startups in the space and not once have I worked with anyone who's trying to scam people. Yes scams exist. No, most projects are not scams. Bad ideas? Sure, maybe! Bad execution? Yep, that happens! Quickly obsolete tech? It's a fast moving scene! But when a startup is trying to build a product such as a financial account for developing countries without banking infrastructure to allow people to build a credit score, or trying to reduce international banking fees impact on remittence payments in countries like Nepal, or trying to allow people to have options in countries where their own national currency is going down the drain, I find it offensive that people on HackerNews who on the whole are smart well-experienced people default to this idea that it's all one big scam. This is in fact one of the reasons I left Crypto - because of relentless attacks on peoples character and how toxic it can be. I'm very happy if this style of conversation disappears from HN forever because 1) saying it's a scam doesn't change anyones opinions 2) the arguments have been repeated literally for years 3) it goes against HN T&Cs anyway.

I hope we're at the point where we can focus on individual projects (which may well be absolutely useless products) than judging the entire space as a whole.

Re: Stripe Crypto

#74
post #39

Slight tangent: Maybe it’s just me, but I’m somewhat uncomfortable with the label “crypto” being co-opted as official shorthand for cryptocurrencies. I see how it’s a natural truncation of a long term, but to many of us the word crypto can mean many other things. When I saw the headline, I wondered if they had released their own cryptographic library or something else to that effect.

Yes it does, but that ship has sadly sailed. Though, on reflection, if I was on the other side of the argument I'd probably be for it.

Re: Stripe Crypto

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post #11
post #4

Just last year Stripe wouldn't even allow any crypto business to be their customers. You could not use Stripe if you business was crypto related. A client of mine had to switch implementation to checkout.com because of that. I wonder what changed...

Yep. Until very recently, we weren't able to support businesses selling crypto. (The regulatory details are complex.) We're now rolling out support and this page is basically about that change.

To be honest, I thought your refusal was probably well justified considering the disproportionate levels of credit card fraud involved in anything to do with crypto. I'd love to see your end of year statistics now...

Re: Stripe Crypto

#76
This is an obvious but very powerful move by Stripe. Stripe is attempting to allow any business to become a place you can buy crypto, which will be really important to remove Coinbase and other CEXs as the only consumer-facing platforms where you can get into the ecosystem.

Of course, that just means replacing those CEXs with Stripe as the fully centralized service on the backend, and you can bet they'll be taking their cut! But anything that moves more money into crypto is good for the Web3 ecosystem. Which would, of course, only be a good thing if you considered growth of the Web3 ecosystem a good thing :)

Re: Stripe Crypto

#77
post #36

Am very glad to see this - was considering adding Coinbase's Commerce product due to quite a few requests to accept BTC payments for our hardware at https://kubesail.com - I suppose we have an extremely privacy focused user-base currently. Since we already use Stripe, I would be very glad to simply "enable bitcoin" as a payment method and leave it at that. Somewhat sadly, I was quite involved in web3 several years ag…

> Am very glad to see this

Am very sad to see this.

I suppose it is inevitable but it could even present problems for businesses in the UK where their banks are allergic to payment platforms that accept cryptocurrency.

It is bonkers to be downvoted for this, but I explained my reasoning in more detail in another comment if credulous people care to reflexively downvote me there too:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30629808

Re: Stripe Crypto

#79
post #39

Slight tangent: Maybe it’s just me, but I’m somewhat uncomfortable with the label “crypto” being co-opted as official shorthand for cryptocurrencies. I see how it’s a natural truncation of a long term, but to many of us the word crypto can mean many other things. When I saw the headline, I wondered if they had released their own cryptographic library or something else to that effect.

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