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Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by nouveaux »

areoform wrote: post #22

I would like to highlight just how much Apple is focusing on their customers and use cases right now. It seems that they're targeting products to what their professional customers actually want. And in this case, it's a 3.7" little thing that can process 18 streams of 8k video (fully specced out). That's kinda crazy, and they're doing it at a price point that's competitive compared to all of the companies out there.…

> they're doing it at a price point that's competitive compared to all of the companies out there

I think they're blowing all their competitors out of the water with the price point. It's not just a 10-20% difference in price anymore.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by randmeerkat »

mshockwave wrote: post #41
nerdjon wrote: post #15

More and more I see the M1 chips and I wish Mac worked seriously well for gaming. Would love too see something like Proton but for Mac (given up hopes for native support). I hate that I have my gaming PC and then my Mac for everything else. I have to wonder though what their plan is for the M2. Are they laying the groundwork for when the M2 comes out all of these variants will be ready at the same time? Or a gradual…

Same, I want to run AAA games using these crazy Mac hardwares. A more interesting question will be: how hard it will be to implement such Proton for Mac? Is there any previous project?

Some more donations to Proton’s Patreon would probably help. They only get about $400 / month right now…

https://www.patreon.com/protondb

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by unfocussed_mike »

the_lucifer wrote: post #63
unfocussed_mike wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the Mac Pro is almost like a phantom product at this point. Or a riff. Like they're going to say "the new Mac Pro is there is no more Mac Pro". What can they really do, in a single machine, that is more "Pro" than the Studio? How are they going to bring developers along when most aren't developing for twenty-core machines? I still think something else is coming. Maybe something unconventionally stackable. Som…

> What can they really do, in a single machine, that is more "Pro" than the Studio? I'm guessing the Mac Pro will focus more on Upgradability and adding expansion slots? That seems like a direction Apple is willing to go tbh.

Why does it need expansion slots? Is that still a thing? :-)

Drive bays, yeah. Maybe some approach towards coprocessor boards.

But none of this new direction shrieks out "install your own graphics card" anymore.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by hughrr »

gzer0 wrote: post #62
ejb999 wrote: post #42

I'd buy one in a second if only it would support running vmware fusion - I still have to have one foot in Windows world, and not being able to spin-up and old windows vm is a deal breaker for me. (M1 chips won't support it). Sure hope my latest macbookpro with intel chip lasts a while, I fear it may be one of the last ones they make.

Have you tried Parallels? It works incredibly well on the M1 macs. https://www.parallels.com/

Also UTM if you are a cheap ass like me.

https://github.com/utmapp/UTM

I use native virtualisation to run Debian arm64 and emulation to run Debian x86-64

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by xemdetia »

ShakataGaNai wrote: post #16

As a comparsion a quick build on PCPartPicker: Xeon E5 22 core, Radeon RX 6900 XT, case, power supply, 64 gb of ram, motherboard, 1TB SSD and CPU cooler. Comes in at just shy of $5,000 That CPU isn't as powerful as the one the M1 Ultra beat in their specs, but should be about the same GPU as they compared and beat. If the benchmarks are to be believed.... the $4,000 Mac Studio will be an absolute powerhouse in the pr…

If anything this just reminds me how frustrating their product line was pre-M1 for so many years. I'm still dealing with the legacy of having to work with people with 16GB as the ceiling and projects that simply do not fit in them.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by unfocussed_mike »

cududa wrote: post #60
unfocussed_mike wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the Mac Pro is almost like a phantom product at this point. Or a riff. Like they're going to say "the new Mac Pro is there is no more Mac Pro". What can they really do, in a single machine, that is more "Pro" than the Studio? How are they going to bring developers along when most aren't developing for twenty-core machines? I still think something else is coming. Maybe something unconventionally stackable. Som…

They literally said in the keynote that the new Mac Pro is in the pipeline

Right, but the keynote is marketing. And they've been saying that for, what, nearly a decade now? [0] And in that time they have chipped away at that segment from different directions, with the iMac Pro and the Mac Studio. The latter of which is a beast already.

What's left? Render farms, scaleable computing.

I guess I think there will be some sort of new machine in that segment. But I figure it's not going to be what people expect from a single, unitary Mac Pro desktop.

Because once you're up at that level of performance requirement, you start to want modular and scaleable things.

What is the pitch for the part of the market that is used to using commodity hardware in scaleable configurations?

[0] Edit: I obviously forgot the cheese grater

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by otterley »

nerdjon wrote: post #15

More and more I see the M1 chips and I wish Mac worked seriously well for gaming. Would love too see something like Proton but for Mac (given up hopes for native support). I hate that I have my gaming PC and then my Mac for everything else. I have to wonder though what their plan is for the M2. Are they laying the groundwork for when the M2 comes out all of these variants will be ready at the same time? Or a gradual…

Tell the game developers! They need to hear from you that the demand is there.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by LegitShady »

hammock wrote: post #37
nerdjon wrote: post #15

More and more I see the M1 chips and I wish Mac worked seriously well for gaming. Would love too see something like Proton but for Mac (given up hopes for native support). I hate that I have my gaming PC and then my Mac for everything else. I have to wonder though what their plan is for the M2. Are they laying the groundwork for when the M2 comes out all of these variants will be ready at the same time? Or a gradual…

Mac is going back to their most successful niche - creators.

Creators is not one group but many groups who create different things.
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