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Yandex warns of bond repayment and supply risks

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Re: Yandex warns of bond repayment and supply risks

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post #14

Normally you'd have simply floated another bond (not a puttable one this time). Credit is a funny thing, it becomes unavailable the moment you need it most ...

Credit exists when you’re able to pay it.

And when you are not blacklist

Re: Yandex warns of bond repayment and supply risks

#72
post #59
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They gonna send nukes because IKEA stopped sending Billy? I'm not sure Billy will come back that way. Let's face it: Russia is illegaly invading a foreign country that is fighting back hard. The only way I see out for Russia to save itself is by sending Putin into exile and blame it all on him. Putin hoped for weakness in the west re sanctions and weapons. They play hardball and now Putin is failing. edit: I also bel…

Russia doesn't need to save itself, it's not under any existential threat. Sanctions will hurt, but they'll live. The ordinary people will suffer worst, and the elite will have to make do without holidays in France and Italian marble counter tops, but their positions depend on maintaining the oppressive state system.

That sounds reasonable, but I wonder what the real elite-government interaction will be like soon. Oligarchs prop up what the government was doing in exchange for government not bothering them. If there's enough economic impact that they can't be the sponsors of Putin... that agreement may fail.

Re: Yandex warns of bond repayment and supply risks

#73
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're wrong. People getting angry at West and talking about war. Including nuclear.

That is the only opinion that's safe to say in the public though, isn't it? So even if that's the only thing heard, it's not clear what the share of the public agreeing with this sentiment is. To my understanding even in Soviet days the people who never had had free media available to them still had a pretty good idea about the dependability of the information provided.

Exactly this. I'd be much more interested in what people say anonymously. Same story anytime you see a North Korean being interviewed with their face visible.

Re: Yandex warns of bond repayment and supply risks

#74
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how the Russian population would feel about Putin using a nuclear weapon in Ukraine if it looks like Russia is losing. Are they that far gone, that inhuman? If they are, what do you do about a country like that, who feels that nuking neighbors after your attempt to conquer them fails is justified? I don't believe the Russian people are that far gone.

I don't think dropping nukes on Ukraine is something Russia would even consider. It makes absolutely no sense from their perspective. What I fear is a Cuba crisis style standoff where Russia sets an ultimatum demanding the West stop all arms deliveries to Ukrainian forces, threatening any transit countries (such as Poland) with nukes.

>threatening any transit countries (such as Poland) with nukes

They can threat all they want, but Poland is a NATO member. An attack on Poland will trigger a retaliation from NATO. Not sure Russia wishes to go to war with all of NATO.

Re: Yandex warns of bond repayment and supply risks

#75
post #2

I believe the sanctions may well trigger a change in the Russian public's opinion of Putin. Right now, my Russian friends tell me that state propaganda is so strong that a significant proportion of the Russian population believe the Ukranian deaths are due to Ukranians just killing themselves. Surely at some point they'll see that what they're being told doesn't make sense. Especially if they also start to see a dete…

After seeing what about half of America was able to believe for over six years I have no confidence that people will realize things don’t make sense

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Re: Yandex warns of bond repayment and supply risks

#76
post #2

I believe the sanctions may well trigger a change in the Russian public's opinion of Putin. Right now, my Russian friends tell me that state propaganda is so strong that a significant proportion of the Russian population believe the Ukranian deaths are due to Ukranians just killing themselves. Surely at some point they'll see that what they're being told doesn't make sense. Especially if they also start to see a dete…

>a significant proportion of the Russian population believe the Ukranian deaths are due to Ukranians just killing themselves.

This sounds like Western meta-propaganda. Russia isn't some mysterious other-world filled with low IQ people. Are we really to believe that swaths of their population believes the Ukranians are merely offing themselves during an invasion? Is there anything we can read that points to this, even Fox News-type article making the claim? Colour me skpetical.

Re: Yandex warns of bond repayment and supply risks

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post #2

I believe the sanctions may well trigger a change in the Russian public's opinion of Putin. Right now, my Russian friends tell me that state propaganda is so strong that a significant proportion of the Russian population believe the Ukranian deaths are due to Ukranians just killing themselves. Surely at some point they'll see that what they're being told doesn't make sense. Especially if they also start to see a dete…

> a significant proportion of the Russian population believe the Ukranian deaths are due to Ukranians just killing themselves. This sounds like Western meta-propaganda. Russia isn't some mysterious other-world filled with low IQ people. Are we really to believe that swaths of their population believes the Ukranians are merely offing themselves during an invasion? Is there anything we can read that points to this, eve…

Unless you're suggesting the poster is part of the meta propaganda I'm unclear on this. These are direct firsthand accounts from friends.

Re: Yandex warns of bond repayment and supply risks

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post #2

I believe the sanctions may well trigger a change in the Russian public's opinion of Putin. Right now, my Russian friends tell me that state propaganda is so strong that a significant proportion of the Russian population believe the Ukranian deaths are due to Ukranians just killing themselves. Surely at some point they'll see that what they're being told doesn't make sense. Especially if they also start to see a dete…

> a significant proportion of the Russian population believe the Ukranian deaths are due to Ukranians just killing themselves. This sounds like Western meta-propaganda. Russia isn't some mysterious other-world filled with low IQ people. Are we really to believe that swaths of their population believes the Ukranians are merely offing themselves during an invasion? Is there anything we can read that points to this, eve…

I read something similar. I believe it was a BBC article but could be wrong. IIRC it was fairly common in Russians who did not speak a second language and not common in English speaking Russians.

I think you misinterpreted what the parent poster meant about Ukrainian s killing themselves. It probably meant Ukrainians killing other Ukrainians in false flag operations and not suicides.

Re: Yandex warns of bond repayment and supply risks

#80
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're wrong. People getting angry at West and talking about war. Including nuclear.

They gonna send nukes because IKEA stopped sending Billy? I'm not sure Billy will come back that way. Let's face it: Russia is illegaly invading a foreign country that is fighting back hard. The only way I see out for Russia to save itself is by sending Putin into exile and blame it all on him. Putin hoped for weakness in the west re sanctions and weapons. They play hardball and now Putin is failing. edit: I also bel…

>The army isn't that strong obviously...

I agree with some of your points, but what do you mean by "strong"? Ukraine is not a cake walk, and the most powerful armies in the world could barely contain poor Afghani warlords. This is not easy.

Consider that much of the news of Russian failure is an information op. The Ukrainians are putting up a valiant fight, but the Russians will run them over without support, no doubt about it.

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