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The Rain System “contains wildfires within 10 minutes of ignition”

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Re: The Rain System “contains wildfires within 10 minutes of ignition”

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Post by horsawlarway »

temp8604 wrote: post #62

On a day where there is actually high fire risk (ie. high wind in hot weather) this system will be too late and not deliver enough retardant to make any difference. In those conditions you will have tens or hundreds of square meters of fire in within that time. Actual fire ignition will usually not be in the open away from other materials as shown in the example. It may be able to stop fires on days when conditions a…

I mean - it looks a LOT like it didn't even put the fire in the video out...

Look at the logs as it starts flying back up - they're clearly still burning, even after the 4 suppressants pop, and then they conveniently cut away very quickly.

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Post by dillondoyle »

CrazyStat wrote: post #56
dillondoyle wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would be interested to hear from a scientist on a couple questions I've had around this thinking: I've read that because of this built up material AND dead trees from beetle kill, no water or snow, etc that the fires burn too hot and kill the regenerative seeds. Is this true? If so how does that factor into the balance of that decision? And do they take into account the carbon and pollution emitted that's a HUGE ne…

> Maybe we can't ever stop them from happening in the first place perhaps it's more flatten the curve We've been trying to "flatten the curve" for the past century. Turns out that was a bad idea. The only way too get back to a healthy ecosystem at this point is to allow a hundred years of excess built up fuel to burn. California had artificially pleasant (i.e mostly wildfire-free) summers for many years. The next few…

Yeah I can buy this.

But I could also see the maths working out that even if we say only slow by 30% that's enough to give us another __ idk say 5 years to get fully renewable.

Thinking along those lines. I have NO idea if that is even possible true on the whole and just fake numbers I obviously don't know, hence asking.

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Post by dragonsky67 »

I wonder if the accurate deliver of fire retardant could be achieved using automated mortars or similar, maybe terminal guidance munition delivered from a high level loitering airship. Your cost may be higher, but I'm thinking that there will be a significant loss rate with drones, and you lose the cost of prepositioning.

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Post by awb »

Not a big fan of the noise pollution. The woods are one of the last places we can go to listen to animals, the wind or silence.

I guess this is fine if it's only deployed when necessary but I definitely don't want these things buzzing around preemptively.

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Post by coryrc »

mabbo wrote: post #39

The reason we have such terrible fires now is that we keep putting out fires when they're small. Nature builds up too much burnable matter over time. Small fires would burn it in small, localized areas. But if the small fires don't happen then we get the massive fires that destroy towns, cities, and cost lives. I am not impressed by a new way to put out small fires, because that just ensures bigger fires in the long…

We can't let them burn at any time of year, because people have moved into the forest all over and we're liable off their property burns or they die.

First step, laws made to remove any liability for fire damage outside urban areas. Make it clear fires are coming and they must have a fire-proof house. But we won't, because the rich will use the poor who can't afford to rebuild their homes as a shield against anyone being held accountable.

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Post by tomc1985 »

How are they going to get this thing on-site in 10 minutes? and I have a hard time believing a brushfire in parched areas is going to stay small enough to contain in that time. Have they seen how quickly a room in a house can be completely ablaze?

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Post by eucryphia »

If they dropped incendiaries during planned burning in cool weather then the fuel loads wouldn’t build up to become mega-fires on hot, windy days in summer.

The Australian CSIRO developed a similar project in the 1970’s but socialists shut it down, along with forest industry, to win elections during the 1980’s

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