Amazon suspends Black Lives Matter from its charity platform • Hacker News Board

Re: Amazon suspends Black Lives Matter from its charity platform

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Post by joshuamorton » Sat, Feb 19, 2022, 8:25 AM UTC

dragonwriter wrote: post #70

joshuamorton wrote: post #69

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> You can not look history from a lens of our modern ethics. Doing so is fraught with problems and you end up missing the the lessons history has for us, and worse you can never see anything good about history. You absolutely can though. There aren't really problems with it. The problems you describe aren't problems with the ethical lens you look at history with. They're just historical facts that I guess you thought…

> I have often had people point to the 3/5's clause in the constitution as an example of racism. Because it is. > They don't understand that is was the abolitionist that fought for that No, they didn't. Abolitionists fought for...abolition. But there weren't many around among the Framers. People who were neither slavers nor politically allied with them (but also not abolitionists in any substantial sense fought for s…

I think you meant this to be a reply to the parent, not to me?

Re: Amazon suspends Black Lives Matter from its charity platform

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Post by david38 » Sun, Feb 20, 2022, 3:58 AM UTC

TMWNN wrote: post #66

smegsicle wrote: post #65

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If they're not 'the real blm' then where is the funding from? I don't heard of donators complaining to have been defrauded, only claims that it's racist to criticize blm for actions by the organization with all the money..

Indeed. Every single time there's some alleged BLM scandal (and there seems to be many), there is someone who assures us that it's not the "real" BLM, but the "national organization"/"local organization"/"someone using the BLM name". It's "fake" BLMs all the way down, seemingly.

Plausible deniability all the way around, at least for scandals like spending millions on homes.

For any good press, plenty of people stepping forward for credit.

Re: Amazon suspends Black Lives Matter from its charity platform

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Post by quinnjh » Mon, Feb 21, 2022, 5:07 AM UTC

syshum wrote: post #67

quinnjh wrote: post #42

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Darling, have a tea. Poster commented with a fact. Black humans and women were not included in founders vision of democratic rights. No one said racism or slavery until you did. If you want to die on the hill, come up with a rebuttal, like why you think black and female humans should not have voting rights

>No one said racism or slavery until you did hmmm >like why you think black and female humans should not have voting rights So you subtle call me a racist, but no one mentioned it? Really..... No where in any comments ever have a stated or implied support for that. Understanding history, understanding the context of the decisions and no applying modern ethical standards to history is a proper way to learn from histor…

Maybe because this is text you are failing to properly interpret my words.

-The post you replied to did not contain the word racism

-The post was calling into question the exclusion of certain classes of humanoids from the framework of rights agreed on at birth of US

-No commenter said the words "you are racist"

-You failed to offer why the exclusion of black or female people is just

In “Notes on the State of Virginia,” Jefferson wrote, “I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep forever…” He believed that to keep slaves in bondage, with part of America in favor of abolition and part of America in favor of perpetuating slavery, would result in civil war. Jefferson’s prediction was correct: in 1861, the contest over slavery sparked a bloody civil war and the creation of two nations — Union and Confederacy — in the place of one.

Read up on natural law