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Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Can you use Apple products without an account? If not*, what version of Linux should I get setup with. Casual web development. I mostly use my personal machine for gaming. Edit - Typo

Ubuntu or one of the main derivatives depending on the user interface you want: Kubuntu, Xubuntu, ...

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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post #52

Can you use Apple products without an account? If not*, what version of Linux should I get setup with. Casual web development. I mostly use my personal machine for gaming. Edit - Typo

> Can you use Apple products without an account?

yes and no

ios devices must hook to internet to activate. they must phone home. That said you can navigate the dark patterns and don't need to use apple id (but you also can't install apps, etc)

for mac you can say this device doesn't connect to the internet. but as soon as you do it phones home.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Desktop linux is as much of an incoherent, barely working mess as it has always been.

You couldn't be more wrong. I made the leap to Ubuntu 20.04 late last year and haven't regretted it. This after a quarter decade of being a Windows guy. There's a couple rough edges, but overall? I'm home.

I've been using macOS for 10 years. Can't fathom going to anything else at this point. Especially anything that requires as much maintenance and DIY as desktop Linux does. I'm fine with running Linux on my servers though — it's robust, simple and reliable for this purpose.

Besides, I simply don't like the approach Linux takes to desktop. The desktop should be part of the system, not a bunch of loose add-on components that you can mix and match and pray they work together.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Literally a trap to hand over your encryption keys. Never sign into an operating system with a cloud identity. You should have stopped using windows years ago. There is no excuse, especially thanks to Valve for their work enhancing wine ecosystem and making your games work.

> There is no excuse, especially thanks to Valve for their work enhancing wine ecosystem and making your games work.

While Proton is great, it helps no one to suggest it's a solution to making all games work. There are absolutely enormous multiplayer titles still unavailable on Proton, if you can't play the games your friends play who cares if 99% of the rest of the Steam library works?

Again, I think Proton is great, and only getting better. It is not though a drop in replacement for a Windows gaming machine, for most people, yet.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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post #29

I believe you can still choose the domain join option during install and still create a local account

Are there any simple domain server emulators out there which I could just run on a Raspberry Pi or whatever, like the fake KMS servers? That would be a decent workaround.

This week I installed samba on a raspberry pi running Ubuntu server to provide active directory domain services to my home network. The Windows computers in the house are now joined to the domain. It was easy and quick to setup. There are a ton of guides to setting up samba as an AD domain controller on Ubuntu out there.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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post #57

Literally a trap to hand over your encryption keys. Never sign into an operating system with a cloud identity. You should have stopped using windows years ago. There is no excuse, especially thanks to Valve for their work enhancing wine ecosystem and making your games work.

Wake me up when I can play my sim racing games with wheel and pedal support in Linux.

Have nice dreams while MS builds a walled garden all around with ads and surveillance.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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post #62

Using Windows with a Microsoft account introduces all sorts of issues that only power users tend to come across, and power users are who Windows Pro is targeted for. For example, RDP'ing to a Windows Pro computer with a Microsoft account becomes a lot more difficult. Another example is that Windows still needs a local username and password, even if you've logged in with a Microsoft account, and this can get out of sy…

This is how I wound up becoming so annoyed that I finally switched to Linux. It’s been great. I haven’t even missed out on gaming.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Windows 7/8 are the last good versions of Windows IMHO. Yeah they have security issues, but I run them in a virtual machine not connected to the Internet where I need things like iTunes and MS Office. Some games don't run in a VM very well because of the overhead and abstraction (unless they're lightweight or not resource intensive). I have a separate Alienware laptop for gaming on Windows however. My hypervisor OS i…

I still run windows 7 as the primary os on my daily driver.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Wishes: Microsoft just buy a linux distro. Bless it, so MS Apps only run on Windows. Make it free for home installs and remove these cloud login shenanigans. Friggin' keep charging Amazon and GCP for running it virtually (unless you actually want mindshare). I'd totally flock to Windows (and its paid services). I guess I just don't see why an operating system is still their cash cow. Feels like the stupid that is: bu…

They do have a Linux distro.

https://github.com/microsoft/CBL-Mariner/

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You couldn't be more wrong. I made the leap to Ubuntu 20.04 late last year and haven't regretted it. This after a quarter decade of being a Windows guy. There's a couple rough edges, but overall? I'm home.

A quarter decade? So you were a Windows guy for a couple of years?

Yeah, but what a long couple of years they've been...
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