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The Lonely Work of Moderating Hacker News (2019)

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Re: The Lonely Work of Moderating Hacker News (2019)

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I mostly appreciate the mods (well, dang is the only one I've interacted with) but I'm pretty tired of being scolded for occasionally making one-sentence comments that lack substance, while in the meantime, the site tolerates people who write pages of absolutely untrue covid vax denialism but don't get any comments from the mods. At this point I'm actively looking for a replacement community that focuses much more on…

Stop making insubstantial one-line comments, please.

OK, I will.

Re: The Lonely Work of Moderating Hacker News (2019)

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Question for the mods: In the old days I don’t remember as much political / world news allowed. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. But I’ve seen more types of TV news s…

I almost think this is a moot question, though interesting to think about.

The world, technology & online culture have changed so much over these years. I don't think submission/curation standards could have remained consistent throughout.

Google, FB and internet companies becoming $>trn companies happened in that time period. Crime, sports & politics have become intertwined with the stuff that was on topic back in the day. FB or Twitter's policies are a major factor in elections worldwide. That's inevitably political. Cybersecurity, infosecurity and even (silly as it sounds) meme-wars are playing a big role in the current eastern european affair.

TV news came to us, moreso than we went to it...I think.

Re: The Lonely Work of Moderating Hacker News (2019)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I "think", most of those debate ties with technology one way or another. Say Joe Rogan's issue may not have been allowed on HN if it wasn't for Spotify. And more broadly speaking, what are the roles of technology in an extremely political sensitive climate. Should Telegram do A or B, and what about Whatsapp, Facebook moderation, Apple App Store disallow certain group, is that a curation problem or a political problem…

inb4 HN stories about Canadian truckers are just gorilla advertising for self-driving trucks! New marketing slogan: "Self-driving truck don't need to get vaccine" /s

Even there many of the stories have been about tech company involvement; GoFundMe, data leaks, social media bans, etc.

Re: The Lonely Work of Moderating Hacker News (2019)

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I mostly appreciate the mods (well, dang is the only one I've interacted with) but I'm pretty tired of being scolded for occasionally making one-sentence comments that lack substance, while in the meantime, the site tolerates people who write pages of absolutely untrue covid vax denialism but don't get any comments from the mods. At this point I'm actively looking for a replacement community that focuses much more on…

Stop making insubstantial one-line comments, please.

My "insubstantial" one-line comments are often more valuable to readers of HN than pagelong of pseudointellectual debate (I watch my upvotes carefully. Which reminds me: is there a tool to track votes and comments on my comments?)

Re: The Lonely Work of Moderating Hacker News (2019)

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I've noticed that all the online spaces I enjoy visiting are heavily moderated. Whenever I get linked to "free speech" loosely-moderated platforms, I usually hit the back button pretty quick.

Can't say this has been my experience. Many of the places I've found with the best discussions have had little to no moderation. The old IMDB boards, for example, were almost entirely devoid of moderation, but had some of the best and most informative discussions about movies and TV shows. There are a number of niche forums I frequent that are similar.

I've even seen a number of subreddits with no moderators/inactive moderators which were pretty good, even with a few thousand members.

I suppose might be that the forums you're discussing may be one of the ones created with the express selling point of having low/no moderation, while these other places where created as a place to have discussions first and foremost.

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I mostly appreciate the mods (well, dang is the only one I've interacted with) but I'm pretty tired of being scolded for occasionally making one-sentence comments that lack substance, while in the meantime, the site tolerates people who write pages of absolutely untrue covid vax denialism but don't get any comments from the mods. At this point I'm actively looking for a replacement community that focuses much more on…

Try libera.chat. It's supposedly the successor to Freenode.

Re: The Lonely Work of Moderating Hacker News (2019)

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This thread gave me the sudden urge to backdate HN on WebArchive. What's amusing is the post on the front-page: "Web 2.0 is a bubble for 3 reasons" yet seeing the same for Web 3.0. HN from 2007 http://web.archive.org/web/20070221033032/https://news.ycomb... Edit: Strange downvotes...

If you’d like to have a deeper dive, HN has a way to see previous front pages: https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2022-01-16

Oh cool, you learn something new every day. Although, WebArchive has a frozen-in-time feel to it.

Re: The Lonely Work of Moderating Hacker News (2019)

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There should be little badges, like employees at nuclear power plants wear, except if you exceed a certain threshold of online discourse you are quarantined in a wifi free zone until you have decontaminated. Irl most people oti are not as weird or insane as you would guess from interacting with them, the exceptions are those driven insane by internet dscourse.

Tldr Hacker News is seriously the worst moderated forum with the worst posters, except for all the other ones.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stop making insubstantial one-line comments, please.

My "insubstantial" one-line comments are often more valuable to readers of HN than pagelong of pseudointellectual debate (I watch my upvotes carefully. Which reminds me: is there a tool to track votes and comments on my comments?)

Lame things get upvoted all the time so watching your upvotes is not really a measure of 'value'. Adding more lame things to the site just because it already has lame things only makes it lamer, not better.
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