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Except that Removing encryption actively endangers children (and everyone else).
That’s a different argument than “they’re not trying to keep kids safe”
Sorry for the choice words, but shit like this makes my blood boil. You're not trying to "keep our children safe" motherfucker, and you know it. You're trying to prevent people from being able to have private conversations, so your secret agencies can harvest all the data from everyone easily. To phrase it as "but think of the children" is instrumentalizing the actual victims of child abuse and you should be ashamed.
Let's assume that it doesn't have any nefarious motives, What's the argument against doing regular police work to catch criminals? Yes, I understand that it's extremely tempting to be able to peak into every persons communications but that has become feasible only the last decade or so. Just do your job the way it has aways been done. Haven't we seen how endless are the ambitions of politicians even in the most democ…
If their communication has mostly gone modern, digital, and encrypted, traditional policework gets a lot harder.
That said, I'm not sure if going after encryption is the right way. But could be it is. I don't know. What if we the technology we've developed has us facing a choice between an Orvellian nightmare and Mad Max?
Where do you draw the geographical line? Would people in the UK no longer be allowed to communicated with someone in the US if that other person would only use E2EE?
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>“If you outlaw Encryption only outlaws will have Encryption.” You overestimate outlaws. 99% of them will just use major platforms and not bother with encryption. There is a lot of low hanging fruit.
And you think our police will have the resources do do anything for those 99%? They are already doing it all out in the open on public platforms, on street corners. Encryption isn’t a barer for enforcement in those cases. The issue is the worst 1% and they will continue to use encryption anyway.
I wish they did. As more data aggregators become available to LE I hope it can make more people responsible for their actions. Technology will allow LE to scale to actually handle enforcing the law over large regions using fewer actual humans.
Whenever a politician invokes "think of the children", ask them about their funding of Child Protection Services.
Any political action that's said to be under the umbrella of "think of the children" that doesn't provide massive amounts of additional funding into Child Protection Services (boots on the ground, education programs, etc), is hiding something, and actively working against helping children because it's distracting from the actual efforts that Child Protection Services are providing as well as spending money on entirely "something else".
Sorry for the choice words, but shit like this makes my blood boil. You're not trying to "keep our children safe" motherfucker, and you know it. You're trying to prevent people from being able to have private conversations, so your secret agencies can harvest all the data from everyone easily. To phrase it as "but think of the children" is instrumentalizing the actual victims of child abuse and you should be ashamed.
> so your secret agencies can harvest all the data from everyone easily The thing is, I don’t think the people who work at those agencies would want this either, except for maybe law enforcement. It’s the bureaucrats who think it’s a good idea, everyone else knows it’s a shite one. It’s an utter farce.
Someone in such an agency believes they act for the greater good. To watch, aides in protecting society from bomber, insurrection, threat.
They see themselves as noble, and likely most are.
The problem here is misuse, and the scope of information. While the majority behave acceptably, agency culture, and political leanings become a trap.
And so the noble use, becomes corrupted. And because the person believes themselves to be good, who they work for is surely good, and so the work done must be good.
Just look at all the devs working at facebook Do they see themselves as evil? Causing civil wars, breakdown of societal cohesion for profit, destruction for stock price?
No.
They see themselves as non-evil. They see what they do as non-evil, because of .