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Re: Social engineering scam that nearly cost me all of my ETH

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The purpose of decentralization is solely censorship resistance. It has nothing to do with consumer protections, consumer education, or easier to check software.

Censorship and consumer protections go together since they're both roles regulators play.

Decentralization can't provide consumer protections regardless of what regulators do. The one thing it can do is resist censorship and things indistinguishable from censorship, like software failure.

Re: Social engineering scam that nearly cost me all of my ETH

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Most people who invite me over for a sandwich would be insulted if I entered their house, took the sandwich they made me and left. In fact, I probably would never get invited over again.

I’d be more worried about being poisoned. Who is giving away free sandwiches? Ya’ll far too trusting. Zero trust is the only way to go.

The number of people who'd do something like this is miniscule. Human society is built on trust for a good reason. We know that rules are imperfect and trust our fellow humans to do the right thing. They don't always but most of the time, the average person will.

Re: Social engineering scam that nearly cost me all of my ETH

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"She tells me a bit about her metaverse project, Space Falcon. I'm not really sold on it, but I'm not really an NFT person so I didn't have any reason to think it was a bad idea either.[...] It seems kind of like a get-rich-quick scheme, but again, that's kind of how I see a lot of NFTs. With all that she's doing for Arrow, there's no harm in showing a little support." The real takeaway from this is that it's dangero…

I don't see it that way at all. The NFT vector is arbitrary. The point was to drain his accounts and nothing more. If a less suspicious method was available, I'm sure the scammers would have taken that one.

Re: Social engineering scam that nearly cost me all of my ETH

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"extremely thorough social engineering" Not really, it seems like the usual being extra flattering to earn favours (or worse). The first two messages would have raised several red flags with me. > He's currently working at Ubisoft and offers to help with 3D design and animation Like if I worked for Ubisoft I'd have time to do 3D design for free for some other company.

Most people helping out like this have normal day jobs. Why would working at Ubisoft be different?

Re: Social engineering scam that nearly cost me all of my ETH

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I don't understand why in the world Thomas wouldn't directly communicate via phone and video chat to any of these people first before doing serious business and potentially traveling across the country for random anonymous folks on Discord. Social engineering is so much easier when you engage in faceless, voiceless communication. This could've been shut down so much more easily if they put a real human being to match…

How would that help? Are you thinking it might be easier to prosecute with a voice or image file?

It's way easier to lie via text. There are verbal and facial cues that make it much harder to maintain a convincing lie.

Re: Social engineering scam that nearly cost me all of my ETH

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This was a multi-week long social engineering scam targeted at Thomas. Thomas has a Discord for a drone transportation startup, and the scammers proceeded to embed themselves in the community and provide valuable labor such as web design and graphics design in order to earn his trust. Thomas's wallet is public and advertised on Twitter via his ENS domain. He had $100M+ in aETH, a derivative token provided by Aave whe…

To be honest, if they got this close, it’s only a matter of time before they take it all. He should strongly consider cashing out and leaving only an amount he is willing to lose in ETH. Hell, given my distaste for crypto, if I were more unethical I may even attempt such scams, but I’d balance it out by donating the stolen money to environmental initiatives to combat global warming (after giving myself some fair comp…

It’s like the televangelist. Money affinity scamming. You need to conspicuously show your wealth on chain so people think God (vitalik) made them rich.

Unless you flex with your $100M in aave on your main with an ENS name, how will your victims know you are rich and worthy?

Re: Social engineering scam that nearly cost me all of my ETH

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Note; dude has $123M in aave wrapped ethereum that he almost granted a scammer access to. Scammers ripping off scammers. Why would you waste time with open source aircrafts. Aircrafts are a regulated thing. Nobody wants to fly in your science project. Put some of that 123 million into starting an actual company. DAOs are bullshit.

I'm a sceptic of crypto usage.

But DAO's do look attractive to me fyi. I wish I could do something similar in regular "fintech" ( and with c#)

Re: Social engineering scam that nearly cost me all of my ETH

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I’d be more worried about being poisoned. Who is giving away free sandwiches? Ya’ll far too trusting. Zero trust is the only way to go.

The number of people who'd do something like this is miniscule. Human society is built on trust for a good reason. We know that rules are imperfect and trust our fellow humans to do the right thing. They don't always but most of the time, the average person will.

Who is we? I don’t trust my fellow humans to do the right thing. Average don’t matter, what matters is, are you offering me a sandwich? Is it poisonous? Would you tell me if it was?

Re: Social engineering scam that nearly cost me all of my ETH

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Note; dude has $123M in aave wrapped ethereum that he almost granted a scammer access to. Scammers ripping off scammers. Why would you waste time with open source aircrafts. Aircrafts are a regulated thing. Nobody wants to fly in your science project. Put some of that 123 million into starting an actual company. DAOs are bullshit.

I'm a sceptic of crypto usage. But DAO's do look attractive to me fyi. I wish I could do something similar in regular "fintech" ( and with c#)

Why are DAOs attractive to you? They are plutocratic institutions.

Re: Social engineering scam that nearly cost me all of my ETH

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I'm a sceptic of crypto usage. But DAO's do look attractive to me fyi. I wish I could do something similar in regular "fintech" ( and with c#)

Why are DAOs attractive to you? They are plutocratic institutions.

Programmatical organization would define the attractiveness for me.
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