Articles mention GA, but is Metrica[0] similarly affected? I guess their data is also stored outside the EU.
Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority
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Re: Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority
#72Sadly I don't see how this decision can be translated into practice, since I strongly doubt the CNIL will be able (or willing) to send formal notice, and fine after a grace period, all French companies that make use of Google Analytics on their website.
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#73Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30284820
Re: Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority
#74I don't like Google but seriously this whole GDPR thing is getting out of hand. Anyone who's concerned about their data being collected can just block Google-or-like-related domains. Rest is just making life of web developers/admins/tech company owners harder. Especially with these European intentions I frankly believe this is more of a political war against US and US-based companies. (No, I'm not from US as well)
> Rest is just making life of web developers/admins/tech company owners harder.
So what ? The right to privacy is more important than a select few having an easier time doing business, end of story.
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#75The onus is on Google to suspend or anonymize Analytics. Individual Website managers can't be expected to discriminate based on geographical origin, as the document seems to imply.
If Google doesn't offer the ability then it is up to the customer to not use GA until Google complies. I hate this ruling, but implying it's just Google's job to do this and everyone else should just do nothing is crazy.
Surely Google has presense in France? Why not go after Google directly. It is way easier than processing 1000s of siteowners.
Google are the ones spying. The aggregate put on GA dashboard are a minute of the personal info they collect.
Re: Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority
#76I don't like Google but seriously this whole GDPR thing is getting out of hand. Anyone who's concerned about their data being collected can just block Google-or-like-related domains. Rest is just making life of web developers/admins/tech company owners harder. Especially with these European intentions I frankly believe this is more of a political war against US and US-based companies. (No, I'm not from US as well)
This is completely unrelated to GDPR. In France, Google Analytics was illegal since it was ever started. French privacy laws from 1978 are still to this day MUCH STRONGER than GPDR which is just salt on the wound and does not prevent malicious collection of data (though now you have to come up with a "legitimate interest" excuse for that).
Google knew they were making an illegal business and still went ahead. IMO they should be charged for being a criminal ring defrauding small businesses for SEO as part of a global scheme... if not for helping genocidal regimes surveil/censor/imprison/murder their population as they have been doing for years.
Re: Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority
#77Note that Wikimedia has been not using Google Analytics since forever because they're concerned about precisely the same privacy problems as the regulators.
This other post has more comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30284820
I love that the plaintiff in this case is the "NOYB Association", as in None Of Your Fucking Business, Google.
Re: Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority
#78So I can take follow someone in public, take picture of them in public places from some distance, follow them into stores, see what they are spending and what they are using, etc. Store owners can have cameras, track the behaviour of customers, etc But if I use a service which anonymously tracks which pages they opened on a website they voluntarily visited and are exploring, then I'm in trouble?
In most countries, you may take a photo including some person walking down public space. However, if you follow this person, aim your camera at this person specifically, or take several pictures of the same person it would be considered an infringement of their "right to image" if not criminal stalking.
Re: Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority
#79Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30284820
The current thread was actually posted first, so we merged the comments hither. Thanks!
Re: Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority
#80So I can take follow someone in public, take picture of them in public places from some distance, follow them into stores, see what they are spending and what they are using, etc. Store owners can have cameras, track the behaviour of customers, etc But if I use a service which anonymously tracks which pages they opened on a website they voluntarily visited and are exploring, then I'm in trouble?
What you're describing is very illegal in France, and you might have the police called on you or the person reacting aggressively if you're filming them like that. In fact there were a few incidents of that nature with Twitch streamers pointing their cameras at people and complaining online they were being mistreated by the locals.