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Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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> I can only spot the cursing in my post. Are you pretending people can only see the part of the post above the edit line when they vote, or something? I downvoted you for being obnoxious in the edits.

Thanks! That’s all I wanted. Better than the silent initial votes.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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This is idiotic. I really respected Spotify for their position in the face of 'controversy.' I'm not a JRE listener, but believe in free speech. What Spotify is doing now just pisses off both sides. Pro speech people don't like this, JRE listeners don't like this, and anti Rogan people won't stop until he's 'canceled' completely.

Fortunately Rogan is still as free as ever to publish these episodes in any other venue, but Spotify (like any publisher) reserves the right to host (or not) whatever content it wants. This isn't an infringement on anyone's speech, so hopefully "pro-speech" people (interesting false dichotomy you've struck between this group and "anti-Rogan" people) are just as happy as they were yesterday. EDIT: A lot of reflexive c…

Actually Spotify bought the exclusive rights to his full back catalog (for a lot of money) so he's not free to publish them elsewhere.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

#74

This is idiotic. I really respected Spotify for their position in the face of 'controversy.' I'm not a JRE listener, but believe in free speech. What Spotify is doing now just pisses off both sides. Pro speech people don't like this, JRE listeners don't like this, and anti Rogan people won't stop until he's 'canceled' completely.

Fortunately Rogan is still as free as ever to publish these episodes in any other venue, but Spotify (like any publisher) reserves the right to host (or not) whatever content it wants. This isn't an infringement on anyone's speech, so hopefully "pro-speech" people (interesting false dichotomy you've struck between this group and "anti-Rogan" people) are just as happy as they were yesterday. EDIT: A lot of reflexive c…

> interesting false dichotomy you've struck between this group and "anti-Rogan" people

People threatening to leave if you let someone else talk is pretty much a good definition of being against free speech.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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I feel like the tail-end of Web 1.0 (generally decentralised protocols/processes) with broadband speeds was really a golden age, peaking around the early to mid 2000s. Once the Web 2.0 train arrived, centralisation into large corps that could do arbitrary cancellations (whether it's locking you out of your Google or Oculus accounts, or getting removed from Twitter or Spotify) really just made the web a lot less interesting for information discovery and sharing.

Blockchain aside, I do find it amusing that we can basically go back to 2005 tools to avoid some of this accelerating authoritarianism. Rip podcasts to MP3s, torrent or email them around. Same with movies, video clips, etc. Sure, mass distribution becomes less instant, but nobody can argue that Doom wasn't popular when it was released just because it wasn't on Steam or whatever.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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It’s not censorship, at all. This is literally peak Capitalism, something anybody that finds their way to & stays on HN should very much understand. Money is currently talking, Spotify - a company - is reacting to money talking. Any other interpretation of this is… I don’t know, but definitely not correct. In the end, we’re once again shown, money is all that matters.

This would probably happen under most economic systems / forms of government. You call it peak capitalism? I call it digital feudalism, and two earls are fighting over perceived digital territory.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

#78

This is idiotic. I really respected Spotify for their position in the face of 'controversy.' I'm not a JRE listener, but believe in free speech. What Spotify is doing now just pisses off both sides. Pro speech people don't like this, JRE listeners don't like this, and anti Rogan people won't stop until he's 'canceled' completely.

Fortunately Rogan is still as free as ever to publish these episodes in any other venue, but Spotify (like any publisher) reserves the right to host (or not) whatever content it wants. This isn't an infringement on anyone's speech, so hopefully "pro-speech" people (interesting false dichotomy you've struck between this group and "anti-Rogan" people) are just as happy as they were yesterday. EDIT: A lot of reflexive c…

Is he able to republish these episodes? No exclusivity contract?

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Remember all those times you have seen gaslighting ideologues saying "nobody is actually calling for [canceling/deleting/censorship]", remember how they couch any argument with "private company can do what it wants". I don't care about Joe Rogan in particular, but you're deluding yourself if you think there isn't some relevance here. A lot of people now suddenly hate Joe, the same way they hate Jordan Peterson, the s…

So, it’s pretty serious. Spotify is paying Joe Rogan to broadcast disinformation that is getting people killed. I think it’s okay in this case if people have a sudden change of opinion or a newly formed strong opinion. He didn’t crack an off color joke.

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