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Calling people names is a cheap shot at attempting to discredit them.
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If you don't know the truth, at least try not to lie. Nothing I've seen in the dozens of downtown live streams jives with the smearing I've witnessed on places like r/pics and the news. It appears from the commentary that there is such vitriol towards the protesters that I wouldn't put it past some opposition group to fly defamatory flags that have no apparent connection to why they are protesting. A prominent trusted newspaper even ran a cartoon presenting the trucks as fascist... for protesting against a perceived government overreach. What kind of cognitive dissonance is going on there?
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
For one thing, they didn’t block access to hospitals or harass health care workers.
I mean I said I didn't want to get into the weeds here, just wanted to make a meta point. But if we must, then perhaps this is a bad criteria to use: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/la-hospita...
Snopes:
> While the sheriff's department said protesters at one point blocked entrances and exits at the hospital, no videos or photos confirmed that was the case.
[snip, most of the article about the shooting itself]
> Rather, video footage showed a handful of deputies standing in a driveway (apparently an entrance to the hospital’s emergency room), while the small group of protesters paced up and down a sidewalk feet away from them.
> At one point, deputies detained a journalist with LA’s NPR station, KPCC, who was reporting on the small protest, as well as a male protester who “refused to comply” with deputies’ demands to leave the area.
> The sheriff’s department said the reporter, Josie Huang, ignored deputies’ repeated commands and did not present “proper” press credentials. But she said and videos of her arrest show she didn’t have time or space to react to deputies orders before they shoved her and forcefully took her into custody. In one video, she can be heard shouting “I’m a reporter… I’m with KPCC” as officers push her to the ground. They cited her with obstructing justice, though KPCC is urging authorities to drop the charge.
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#74Amazing that the 100 IQ elites all think they want a working class uprising, but when it happens they panic and smear them as every -ist and -ism label in the book.
It's fine to disagree with the protesters, but at least be honest about what they want. They've been squeezed off online platforms and out of mainstream discourse, and this is what happens when it bubbles over.
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#75The money should first go to Ottawa residents besieged and subjected to 24 hour honking, diesel fumes and noise from engines running through the night. Then there's revenue loss for the businesses forced to shut down and wage loss for their employees. Class Action Suit could rightfully clean out the GoFundMe.
You hold the same views about the BLM riots right? All the money donated should be seized and given to people in cities where the riots took place?
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't really want to get into the weeds here, but when you take a step back and squint a little bit it's hard to tell if this message was written by someone complaining about Canadian Truckers or about the 2020 Summer riots. Maybe let's lean a little more towards letting people express themselves and not bringing in the people with guns?
I had the exact same take on the riots in 2020 and I don't condone rioting in general. Disrupting public order, destroying property, or just causing economic damage and thinking the law is just some suggestion seems to be an increasing and pretty bad trend. Expressing yourself is fine, disturbing public life because you don't get your will isn't. That's not how civilized societies resolve issues. This is now apparent…
I agree with you, but I also see violence as an inevitable consequence of growing inequality. If we continue to let wealth inequality grow, more and more people will feel the game is unfair, and choose to play another game, even if the "rising tide that lifts all boats" is lifting their boat somewhat.
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
For one thing, they didn’t block access to hospitals or harass health care workers.
I mean I said I didn't want to get into the weeds here, just wanted to make a meta point. But if we must, then perhaps this is a bad criteria to use: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/la-hospita...
I'm not sure that article is useful to your point, as it states that the Sheriff's office was claiming they were blocking the hospital, but that "The Independent could find no evidence of them blocking emergency exits."
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#78okay so this is an unlawful protest that has a detrimental impact on residents, the environment, and local business. Can someone explain to me why this is tolerated and why these people are not simply being arrested? What it reminds me of is that 2014 standoff with the Bundy family on federal land in the US or farmers in France. Some groups can just do whatever they want apparently.
> unlawful protest Please, give me examples of what you'd consider "lawful" protests of any significance.
The ones that align with the correct narratives. Pointing out the double standard this creates is wrongthink. Dems da rules.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Blocking a street for many days is typically considered illegal. I'm not saying that they should be prevented from protesting (and I strongly disagree with that protest), just answering the question as to why this might be illegal.
While this is just one part of the protest, but what is happening in Coutts is illegal. Alberta passed an act recently (2020) restricting where you can protest - https://www.alberta.ca/protecting-critical-infrastructure.as... The Coutts border crossing and highway is currently blocked. This is in contravention of the Critical Infrastructure Act as highways are included.
IIRC, bill C-51 defined this as an act of terrorism. Wonder how that's going to play out. When it's indigenous people blocking a pipeline, the SWAT teams come out.
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't really want to get into the weeds here, but when you take a step back and squint a little bit it's hard to tell if this message was written by someone complaining about Canadian Truckers or about the 2020 Summer riots. Maybe let's lean a little more towards letting people express themselves and not bringing in the people with guns?
There are peaceful ways to protest and expressing oneself, occupying a city this way and stealing food from a homeless shelter is not one of them that should be tolerated. Edit: See my comment below for sources on homeless shelter
Stealing food? Can you cite that?