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Self-driving Tesla does 'the craziest things you can imagine'

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Everyone wants to hate on Elon but he’s making incredible progress in machine learning. Tesla and OpenAI have done more for the field than almost anyone in the last decade, except maybe Google.

How are you claiming this? There are tons of research publications from the likes of Google, Facebook etc. Does Tesla ever publish AI/ML research?

Re: Self-driving Tesla does 'the craziest things you can imagine'

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post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But is it closer than Linux on the desktop?

The irony of this is there is probably more Unix on your wrist than Linux on the desktop.

As someone who's heavily bought into the Apple ecosystem, I'm surrounded by Unix all the time, technically. On my wrist, in my pocket, on my lap. And I'm surrounded by Linux, too, at least at work. But Linux on the desktop? How delightfully absurd!

Nah, I really want my next PC build to run Linux. But that'll have to wait a while ... just paid $4k for a vacation. My girlfriend wasn't sympathetic that $4k would pay for an awesome rig instead.

Re: Self-driving Tesla does 'the craziest things you can imagine'

#73
Disclaimer about this guy Ogan, if you track his online accounts it’s very anti-Tesla auto-pilot/self-driving. Rightfully so in some situations.

Also he is a investor in a Chinese competitor to Tesla (EV and self-driving abilities). Take his words with a grain of salt.

Re: Self-driving Tesla does 'the craziest things you can imagine'

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Just to clarify the current process of being able to use the Tesla FSD beta because I've seen a lot of comments by people thinking Tesla released this and cars are now just driving around without a human driver: 1. pay $12k or $200/mo 2. Opt-in for beta. Drive over 100-200 miles and maintain a 98%+ "safety score" until you're selected (could be months) 3. Manually activate FSD each time you want to use it 4. Keep han…

Should this be legal? Some rich Tesla fanboy beta testing buggy software with a misleading name of autopilot or FSD ont he streets where your children walk? I am not aware of such laws but they shoudl exist, otherwise other companies can start alpha testing with random fanboys.

I drive a tesla with FSD in an urban area and based on what I've seen it do, I am 1000x more scared of some rich boy driving his new lambo around hitting a pedestrian than my Tesla while on FSD even with noone in it (if that were possible)

Re: Self-driving Tesla does 'the craziest things you can imagine'

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post #70

These days when I'm near a Tesla on the road I use the same caution as if driving near an obviously drunk driver. Give them lots of space and prepare for them to act unpredictably.

My father has a 2019 P100D model S. I’ve driven it a few times. It feels like you’re driving a cross between a budget Android tablet and a somewhat skittish horse with a rocket engine up its ass. What could possibly go wrong? On the last two occasions it has dumped on the brakes in the middle of an empty road for no reason.

My usual wheels are a crappy French dumb city car with a peanut for an engine and I feel safer in that with a large truck driving 6 feet off my ass.

Edit: also my crappy French thing actually has CarPlay rather than the shit show mess Tesla came up with.

Re: Self-driving Tesla does 'the craziest things you can imagine'

#79

https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/fsd is the current definitive take on the subject. Watching this video I really had no idea how bad it was. My opinion is that we will never have full self driving without infrastructure updates; basically putting the cars on rails and forbidding non-self-driving cars and pedestrians. Even then it's dicey. At least part of the reason is that a self-driving car can never have skin in…

> So if you want to cut off a self-driving car, go for it!

I'm not sure. Maybe it's my anxiety speaking but that sounds pretty dangerous, at least over time. An autonomous car may not play chicken but it can still make mistakes, or be unable to brake in time. There's also no way to know that a car is being autonomously driven since, currently, someone has to have their hands on the wheel.

Re: Self-driving Tesla does 'the craziest things you can imagine'

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post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The irony of this is there is probably more Unix on your wrist than Linux on the desktop.

As someone who's heavily bought into the Apple ecosystem, I'm surrounded by Unix all the time, technically. On my wrist, in my pocket, on my lap. And I'm surrounded by Linux, too, at least at work. But Linux on the desktop ? How delightfully absurd! Nah, I really want my next PC build to run Linux. But that'll have to wait a while ... just paid $4k for a vacation. My girlfriend wasn't sympathetic that $4k would pay f…

I tried Linux on a fairly hefty Ryzen rig recently and it was the usual shit show. HiDPI doesn’t even work properly with wayland yet. My next $4k rig is going to be an iMac.

Typing this on my iPad in a hotel. That’s the life.

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