Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

YouTube: Due to limited creator history we're limiting the number of views

reddit.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

71–80 of 82 posts

Re: YouTube: Due to limited creator history we're limiting the number of views

#71

Post by dwild »

33ultra wrote: post #60
svnpenn wrote: post #38

This is fine. This is YouTube trying to curb antivax bullshit, which is a good idea > protests, since they were organized by truckers opposed to Covid vaccine mandates. https://reclaimthenet.org/youtube-capping-viewer-limits/

Which is a good idea for you. Maybe create or install a nanny-filter. It is not a good idea for me. If I want official information, I know where to find it. If I want to read about young men getting a heart attack one week after taking a vaccine, if I want to see how the pandemic is forming in China before going global, if I want to know how Indians combated flu epidemics with flavanoids, then I need to pass by the g…

> I know where to find it.

Then it will be from known source right? And not from new source like this system is blocking you from, right?

This is against NEW content, from people that are not known.

Once more people see them, once you keep watching them as you believe in them, then yeah that restriction will disappear. There's a reason why this is asking people to subscribe...

Re: YouTube: Due to limited creator history we're limiting the number of views

#72

Post by dwild »

33ultra wrote: post #65
33ultra wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is a good idea for you. Maybe create or install a nanny-filter. It is not a good idea for me. If I want official information, I know where to find it. If I want to read about young men getting a heart attack one week after taking a vaccine, if I want to see how the pandemic is forming in China before going global, if I want to know how Indians combated flu epidemics with flavanoids, then I need to pass by the g…

These downvotes remind me about downvotes 2 years back, when I was here on HackerNews talking about leaky vaccines, vaccination-driven variants of concern, and COVID eventually turning endemic (without or without human intervention), impossible to ever remove. There are people still on HackerNews right now, who were back then talking about overreactions, and it just being a flu, and that masks promote xenophobia and…

> There are people still on HackerNews right now, who were back then talking about overreactions, and it just being a flu,

What? It just being a flu is an argument that I only seen from anti-vax... never been a thing here but would be happy to be proven wrong.

> and that masks promote xenophobia and do nothing.

Never seen this also, could you show me? The best I have seen in the past was that a mask in the wrong hands do no good, which is true when you need 100x more mask than you got, which was the case at the time.

> you want to mandate a treatment for non-at-risk people, which can give them permanent damage or even cause death.

I'm curious how you define non-at-risk people too? Covid was not a risk for them but vaccine was? That's weird how the virus works ;). Whatever you fear from the vaccine, you can fear the same from the virus... except that from the virus, the numbers are incredibly much worse. Why would we use the vaccine if that wasn't the case? We would be stuck with the exact same issues.

Re: YouTube: Due to limited creator history we're limiting the number of views

#73

Post by alternatetwo »

kingcharles wrote: post #45
kotaKat wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mobile live streaming requirements: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9228390 Over 50 subs and under 1000 subs == streaming is limited via mobile. It doesn't matter how old your account, either -- I have an account with only 28 subscribers (somehow?) for several years and I get the same limitations on mobile streaming, namely that I can't even stream. Technical workaround would be to set up a stream via deskt…

Reading that I had to go check the subscriber count on my account. 17 year old YouTube account has.... 115 subscribers! I would have thought more bots than that would have randomly subscribed over the years. Went to jail for eight years. First thing I do when I get out.. how many views did I get on YouTube while I was gone?!

They did, but the accounts got deleted probably. I was going from 1200-1000 on a mostly inactive account for years.

Re: YouTube: Due to limited creator history we're limiting the number of views

#74

Post by namlem »

causi wrote: post #58
hnburnsy wrote: post #55

From Google support... https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9228390 >Requirements To live stream on mobile, you’ll need: At least 50 subscribers. No live streaming restrictions within the last 90 days on your channel. To verify your channel. To enable live streaming. You may need to wait 24 hours before you can start your first live stream. An Android 5.0+ device. >Why is my mobile live stream’s audience limited…

So basically a big old "fuck you" to anyone witnessing a noteworthy event. No citizen journalism allowed.

Presumably it's to stop copyright infringement. People streaming shows and such.

Re: YouTube: Due to limited creator history we're limiting the number of views

#75

Post by Rebelgecko »

aquova wrote: post #11

First off, I'd like to see some additional proof that this isn't a hoax. There's other people in that thread claiming it's real, but I have yet to see anything other than the image posted. Assuming it is real however, this is another baffling decision Youtube has made in recent months. I assume the thought behind this is to try maximize their walled garden in some way, but unlike other sites Youtube has such a long h…

(full disclosure, work for Google but not on this)

>Assuming it is real however, this is another baffling decision Youtube has made in recent months... This is being done in the name of "small creators" but it seems apparent this will have the opposite effect.

A few months ago, people with under a thousand subscribers couldn't livestream at all. I think for 99% of situations, "livestreaming with limitations" is going to be a step above "no livestreaming" (unless you think livestreaming in general is bad, and I can see the merits of that viewpoint)

Re: YouTube: Due to limited creator history we're limiting the number of views

#76

Post by smitop »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #2

Does anyone have more context? Or a link to a video showing this issue? This Reddit thread only seems to have a screenshot (though I didn’t scour the entire comment section). I’ve never seen this in the wild, and technically without a link I still haven’t seen it live at all. I’m wondering if the channel triggered some sort of anti-spam mechanism. EDIT: The only source I can find is from screenshots of right-wing Twi…

This video was archived while the issue was occuring: https://archive.fo/IMxlI

Re: YouTube: Due to limited creator history we're limiting the number of views

#77

Post by 33ultra »

dwild wrote: post #72
33ultra wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These downvotes remind me about downvotes 2 years back, when I was here on HackerNews talking about leaky vaccines, vaccination-driven variants of concern, and COVID eventually turning endemic (without or without human intervention), impossible to ever remove. There are people still on HackerNews right now, who were back then talking about overreactions, and it just being a flu, and that masks promote xenophobia and…

> There are people still on HackerNews right now, who were back then talking about overreactions, and it just being a flu, What? It just being a flu is an argument that I only seen from anti-vax... never been a thing here but would be happy to be proven wrong. > and that masks promote xenophobia and do nothing. Never seen this also, could you show me? The best I have seen in the past was that a mask in the wrong hand…

For sourcing, I'll see if I can muster some time later. But you'd do the same as me: Look at HackerNews discussions starting around February 2020.

Non-at-risk people are young people without co-morbidities or overweight. These have a similar risk profile as for influenza. At-risk people are older people, and since the decisions are made by older people, these decisions mostly favor their own pockets and peace of mind.

There are groups of non-at-risk people, with naturally acquired immunity (because these worked in supermarkets, when older powerful people had the luxury of work-from-home), for which taking the vaccine has more to fear than contracting COVID. For them, taking the vaccine still helps with pressure on hospitals, the at-risk elderly decision-makers, and aiding economic recovery. Helpful. Selfless. We are in this together. But scared into, or mandated into, or forced into taking the vaccine "for their own good".

Re: YouTube: Due to limited creator history we're limiting the number of views

#78

Post by nervlord »

rwmj wrote: post #50
sennight wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What you are asking for is already widely available: network television. I don't see how it is a good thing that Google has adopted more and more of the negative aspects of the old system, but they certainly have been busy doing so for the last few years. You know a very good way to control what is and is not part of the public discourse? Allow only those with a lot to lose the privilege of speaking. Those creators w…

You realise that you can set up your own web server and livestream as much as you like (and can afford) from that to as many people as you want? Youtube doesn't owe you free bandwidth.

No post body was provided.
Post reply on HN