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Militarized Dolphins Protect Almost a Quarter of the US Nuclear Stockpile

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It’s been a while since I’ve seen it, but I can’t remember it including anything with dolphins.

It has Dolph Lundgren.. Close enough?

Which is probably the most memorable character in the movie.

“Do you want someone brought to Jesus?”

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All these links and no 'Johnny Mnemonic' reference. Takes place in 2021. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Mnemonic_(film)

They also used dolphins carrying bombs in the movie "The day of the dolphin" I watched as a kid in the 70s.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069946/

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We might never know what is currently in use, but I'm convinced that any wild and wacky idea has been tried by somebody. Some fun ones off the top of my head: - Meet Wojtek the bear: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wojtek_(bear) - AT-Dogs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tank_dog - Ships made of ice and saw dust: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Habakkuk - Funny tanks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobart%27s_F…

My contribution to your already wonderful list: The Bat Bomb, aka Project X-Ray https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_bomb

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This isn't exactly a secret or new information... it was pretty well known when I lived on the peninsula 10+ years ago (thus the username, Poulsbohemian...). There's a state park right near the Hood Canal bridge where it isn't uncommon to watch the submarines come and go in and out of the canal. Always a bit surreal to push your kids on the swings while watching a first strike weapon capable of destroying the world p…

No doubt surreal, but a single sub destroy the world? That piqued my interest so took a quick look and found an article [1]. This article states that "even a single vessel [submarine] could reduce as many as 288 city-sized targets into radioactive ash in less than 30 minutes." Later in the article they say that the Ohio class is capable of carrying up to 24 UGM-133 Trident II D5 submarine launched ballistic missiles.…

You forgot to multiply the warheads' yield by the number of missiles onboard.

475 kt × 12 × 24 = 136.8 Mt, so that's even way more than that.

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This isn't exactly a secret or new information... it was pretty well known when I lived on the peninsula 10+ years ago (thus the username, Poulsbohemian...). There's a state park right near the Hood Canal bridge where it isn't uncommon to watch the submarines come and go in and out of the canal. Always a bit surreal to push your kids on the swings while watching a first strike weapon capable of destroying the world p…

No doubt surreal, but a single sub destroy the world? That piqued my interest so took a quick look and found an article [1]. This article states that "even a single vessel [submarine] could reduce as many as 288 city-sized targets into radioactive ash in less than 30 minutes." Later in the article they say that the Ohio class is capable of carrying up to 24 UGM-133 Trident II D5 submarine launched ballistic missiles.…

> But destroy the world?

If by "world", it meant "human world", not "the planet", and your intention were to bring our civilization into total chaos, post-Roman-Empire-style, then you'd think that killing a billion people in just the right places would be a pretty good start.

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"For protection against enemy divers, dolphins will swim up to the infiltrator, bump into them and place a buoy device on their back or a limb using their mouth. The buoy then drags the outed diver to the surface for easy capture." I mean come on, "enemy divers" will just kill the dolphins or avoid contact with them..

Yeah I did wonder that. Dunno how far Dolphins echo location is effective from. But presumably it's further than most people probably can see underwater. Especially if the water is murky or dark. It could allow the dolphin to detect the diver beyond the perception of the diver. Then presumably the dolphin is trained to rush the diver and 'bump'/smash into the diver before he has time to react or even see the dolphin.

Still does all sound fairly risky for the dolphin. Think I'd still rather be the dolphin given it's much better suited to water than humans and probably has the perception advantage with echo location.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We might never know what is currently in use, but I'm convinced that any wild and wacky idea has been tried by somebody. Some fun ones off the top of my head: - Meet Wojtek the bear: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wojtek_(bear) - AT-Dogs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tank_dog - Ships made of ice and saw dust: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Habakkuk - Funny tanks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobart%27s_F…

My contribution to your already wonderful list: The Bat Bomb, aka Project X-Ray https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_bomb

Olga answered that the murder of the messengers sent to Kiev, as well as the events of the feast night, had been enough for her. She then asked them for a small request: "Give me three pigeons...and three sparrows from each house."[15] The Drevlians rejoiced at the prospect of the siege ending for so small a price, and did as she asked.

Olga then instructed her army to attach a piece of sulphur bound with small pieces of cloth to each bird. At nightfall, Olga told her soldiers to set the pieces aflame and release the birds. They returned to their nests within the city, which subsequently set the city ablaze.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olga_of_Kiev#Drevlian_Uprising

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No doubt surreal, but a single sub destroy the world? That piqued my interest so took a quick look and found an article [1]. This article states that "even a single vessel [submarine] could reduce as many as 288 city-sized targets into radioactive ash in less than 30 minutes." Later in the article they say that the Ohio class is capable of carrying up to 24 UGM-133 Trident II D5 submarine launched ballistic missiles.…

A single sub can destroy the world any time it's commander wishes, not by launching 288 warheads at 288 cities, but by launching one warhead, at either Moscow, or Washington. Contingency plans for responding to a decapitating strike will do the rest.

So crazy to think that at any given time you have thousands of warheads targeting the pentagon so as to obliterate the place. Same to other strategic US and Russian places.

I highly recommend the book Command and Control.

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This isn't exactly a secret or new information... it was pretty well known when I lived on the peninsula 10+ years ago (thus the username, Poulsbohemian...). There's a state park right near the Hood Canal bridge where it isn't uncommon to watch the submarines come and go in and out of the canal. Always a bit surreal to push your kids on the swings while watching a first strike weapon capable of destroying the world p…

No doubt surreal, but a single sub destroy the world? That piqued my interest so took a quick look and found an article [1]. This article states that "even a single vessel [submarine] could reduce as many as 288 city-sized targets into radioactive ash in less than 30 minutes." Later in the article they say that the Ohio class is capable of carrying up to 24 UGM-133 Trident II D5 submarine launched ballistic missiles.…

> But destroy the world? It seems evident Earth itself would remain in it's current spherical shape but it would be terribly perhaps irreversibly poisoned, taking a lot if not all life with it.

At risk of being self absorbed, if the world is largely uninhabitable and our way of life irreparably changed, then I'd consider that serious enough to lump in the "destroy the world" category. At that point I probably wouldn't care if the Earth was still an intact oblate spheroid given I'd either be dead or likely wishing I was.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No doubt surreal, but a single sub destroy the world? That piqued my interest so took a quick look and found an article [1]. This article states that "even a single vessel [submarine] could reduce as many as 288 city-sized targets into radioactive ash in less than 30 minutes." Later in the article they say that the Ohio class is capable of carrying up to 24 UGM-133 Trident II D5 submarine launched ballistic missiles.…

You forgot to multiply the warheads' yield by the number of missiles onboard. 475 kt × 12 × 24 = 136.8 Mt, so that's even way more than that.

Thank you. I've updated the post to reflect this correction.
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