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Charm – Tools to make the command line glamorous

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Re: Charm – Tools to make the command line glamorous

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Post by viraptor »

digisign wrote: post #29
divbzero wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The dynamic intuitive interface provided by `ssh git.charm.sh` is a wonderful example of how text-based user interfaces do not need to be limited to REPL. I wonder if there is space for a new text-based web browser that adopts some of the design features showcased by Charm.

A Gemini client might benefit: https://gemini.circumlunar.space/

Aren't Gemini pages static-by-design? It would be hard to do something really interactive / state-preserving with them if I'm not mistaken.

Re: Charm – Tools to make the command line glamorous

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Post by achileas »

eurasiantiger wrote: post #56

This seems highly suspicious in light of recent supply chain attacks. Offering everyone a nice CLI experience, and so well branded and 1337 too. According to Crunchbase, the company has two employees and receives millions in funding. Something doesn’t add up here.

More often than not, it's the Crunchbase DB. Especially for early companies it can be pretty out of date quickly. My current employer had its entry badly merged with a similar named company that wasn't even close to what we did, so we had the wrong description for over a year.

Also it lists two employee profiles, but a size of 1-10. This is common too, again at my current employer we've got a headcount in the 20s but only 1 or 2 employee profiles on crunchbase. $3M is also not a massive seed round by any means, I've seen plenty of early startups with 2-4 employees raise $9M+.

Re: Charm – Tools to make the command line glamorous

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Post by tom_ »

eurasiantiger wrote: post #58
ncpa-cpl wrote: post #19

I liked their contact email: vt100@charm... :)

Everything there is worded so that sysadmins and devops kind of persons will love it. All the product names are cute and innocuous. This is a huge red flag and the entire operation is highly suspicious.

Yup, it's that old classic again! Goes something like this:

Step 1: Produce cutesy web site clearly aimed at a specific demographic

Step 2: ???

Step 3: ???

I've seen it so many times now that I can't believe people are still falling for it.

Re: Charm – Tools to make the command line glamorous

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Post by jck »

zmmmmm wrote: post #52

I love the general renaissance of terminal UI tools we are seeing in the last few years. I can't quite put my finger on what I like about it so much. Something to do with the simplicity and directness of these UIs, guaranteed optimised for efficient keyboard nav, widespread adoption of vim-like navigation keys, and the fact that they link directly with my terminal shell so I can stay entirely in a stream of thought w…

You can configure kitty to open the entire scrollback buffer in an editor or a pager(less/nvim etc).

https://github.com/kovidgoyal/kitty/issues/719

Re: Charm – Tools to make the command line glamorous

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Post by Syonyk »

zmmmmm wrote: post #52

I love the general renaissance of terminal UI tools we are seeing in the last few years. I can't quite put my finger on what I like about it so much. Something to do with the simplicity and directness of these UIs, guaranteed optimised for efficient keyboard nav, widespread adoption of vim-like navigation keys, and the fact that they link directly with my terminal shell so I can stay entirely in a stream of thought w…

> I can't quite put my finger on what I like about it so much.

I can.

Doesn't require a 1.5GB build directory to make a 500MB binary that uses 3GB of RAM to display a chat client/music player/etc.

Re: Charm – Tools to make the command line glamorous

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Post by jay_kyburz »

Syonyk wrote: post #76
zmmmmm wrote: post #52

I love the general renaissance of terminal UI tools we are seeing in the last few years. I can't quite put my finger on what I like about it so much. Something to do with the simplicity and directness of these UIs, guaranteed optimised for efficient keyboard nav, widespread adoption of vim-like navigation keys, and the fact that they link directly with my terminal shell so I can stay entirely in a stream of thought w…

> I can't quite put my finger on what I like about it so much. I can. Doesn't require a 1.5GB build directory to make a 500MB binary that uses 3GB of RAM to display a chat client/music player/etc.

Also, every app uses the same font and colors, there is no animation, its very responsive.

Re: Charm – Tools to make the command line glamorous

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Post by dymk »

jay_kyburz wrote: post #77
Syonyk wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I can't quite put my finger on what I like about it so much. I can. Doesn't require a 1.5GB build directory to make a 500MB binary that uses 3GB of RAM to display a chat client/music player/etc.

Also, every app uses the same font and colors, there is no animation, its very responsive.

The submitted library features a physics-based animation system, so that may change

Re: Charm – Tools to make the command line glamorous

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Post by seumars »

Syonyk wrote: post #76
zmmmmm wrote: post #52

I love the general renaissance of terminal UI tools we are seeing in the last few years. I can't quite put my finger on what I like about it so much. Something to do with the simplicity and directness of these UIs, guaranteed optimised for efficient keyboard nav, widespread adoption of vim-like navigation keys, and the fact that they link directly with my terminal shell so I can stay entirely in a stream of thought w…

> I can't quite put my finger on what I like about it so much. I can. Doesn't require a 1.5GB build directory to make a 500MB binary that uses 3GB of RAM to display a chat client/music player/etc.

The node-based CLI tools kind of do though.

Re: Charm – Tools to make the command line glamorous

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Post by dymk »

tom_ wrote: post #74
eurasiantiger wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything there is worded so that sysadmins and devops kind of persons will love it. All the product names are cute and innocuous. This is a huge red flag and the entire operation is highly suspicious.

Yup, it's that old classic again! Goes something like this: Step 1: Produce cutesy web site clearly aimed at a specific demographic Step 2: ??? Step 3: ??? I've seen it so many times now that I can't believe people are still falling for it.

Falling for what?
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