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Re: Programmers' Day

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Can you imagine "programmer's day" being officially recognized in a western society such as the US or the UK? Over here, intellectual pursuits such as programming are effectively spat upon.

"Effectively spat upon", really? The reason Programmer's Day will never be a thing here is that programming is a low-risk, well-paid, white-collar professional occupation like many others. Nothing special about it, and we don't have a lawyer's day or an actuary's day or a guy who designs the machine that makes tiles for bathrooms day.

I, for one, am all for a "guy who designs the machine that makes tiles for bathrooms" day.

No seriously, manufacturing engineers need more recognition, and don't even belong on the same list as lawyers. More children need to know that "building machines" is a viable career choice. I wish I had known . . . [/rant]

Re: Programmers' Day

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"Effectively spat upon", really? The reason Programmer's Day will never be a thing here is that programming is a low-risk, well-paid, white-collar professional occupation like many others. Nothing special about it, and we don't have a lawyer's day or an actuary's day or a guy who designs the machine that makes tiles for bathrooms day.

I, for one, am all for a "guy who designs the machine that makes tiles for bathrooms" day. No seriously, manufacturing engineers need more recognition, and don't even belong on the same list as lawyers. More children need to know that "building machines" is a viable career choice. I wish I had known . . . [/rant]

I agree. It's fascinating to take pretty much any device on your desk, and think, "How would I build a machine / process to build 10,000 of these a day?" Manufacturing engineering is something I have a great deal of respect for. Lots of hard problems, infinitely changing constraints, many challenges - and then marketing fucks it all up. :)

Re: Programmers' Day

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Degrees in computer science and computer engineering are in the top 10 for average earnings. We get to build all kinds of cool stuff used by people around the world. For many of us, programming is fun . And we get paid to do it! Every day is programmer's day.

A lot of programmers are unsung and don't get the praise they deserve. Sure, you have famous programmers like Woz and Zuckerberg, but there are a lot of talented people out there that aren't even given praise at work.

Re: Programmers' Day

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Wow, amazon really does kick ass. I think saving money on designers can be justified, after all ;-)

Why should we be surprised that the company whose business is in shipping and selling a wide range of physical products has more revenue than a range of companies whose income are either service fees or advertisements? We're not comparing like with like; Amazon's revenue is counted against by buying and stocking the physical products they sell to derive that revenue. None of the others on that chart have physical pro…

By profit margin, Apple is a lot closer to the purely software companies than it is to the likes of the (nearly identical) Walmart and Amazon.

http://ycharts.com/companies/AAPL/profit_margin#compCos=AMZN...

Re: Programmers' Day

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Some interesting data I pulled together today: Approximate revenue-per-employee. Data from Wolfram Alpha and Wikipedia. Apple makes $2,000,000 per employee. Facebook makes $1,500,000. Google makes $1,000,000. Microsoft makes $800,000. Sony makes $500,000. Kraft makes $400,000. Walmart makes $200,000. McDonalds makes $60,000. Now, if only there was a good source of users-per-engineer. I read that Facebook is somewhere…

Mozilla used to welcome each employee with a little knicknack and say, "This represents your million users. Try not to abuse them too much."

But not anymore? :(

Re: Programmers' Day

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Mozilla used to welcome each employee with a little knicknack and say, "This represents your million users. Try not to abuse them too much."

But not anymore? :(

I don't know, I heard it in an old interview with Aza Raskin, who doesn't even work there anymore. They might still do it :)
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