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Re: CSVCHAIN - NFTs backed by CSV technology

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Post by xrd »

asciimike wrote: post #68
weego wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once Roy makes some $ he could horizontally scale to a 2GB drive. Or 2 1GB drives and keep one in his sock draw so it's distributed in his house.

In the event of using 2 1GB drives with one stored in the sock drawer, how do we prevent the quite literal "evil maid" attacks altering the CSVCHAIN? Additionally, if we do use this mechanism, I petition to fork the name from CSVCHAIN to SockChain.

I don't know how many times I need to repeat this FACT on this site, but socks are NOT immutable. How many holes do you have in your 7 year old socks? I'd wager a LOT. How many mismatched socks do you have in your drawer? I'd wager, AGAIN, a LOT.

The only way to make this truly secure, is to have 2 USB thumb drives, plugged into a different side of the machine (god hope you have a machine with USB ports on both sides). Then, saw the machine in half, right down the middle. I'll find the crypto paper where I read about that.

Re: CSVCHAIN - NFTs backed by CSV technology

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Post by heyitsguay »

ForgotMyPwOops wrote: post #61
folli wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you need to fallback to centralized government to sue for copyright? How bourgoise.

Maybe I misunderstand your point but intellectual property can only exist under a legal system, this seems like a shallow 'gotcha'

No, it's a thorough gotcha for a shallow topic to which money has given the illusion of depth. If you need a centralized entity to enforce the rights associated with a decentralized system, the decentralized system is unnecessary. We've long had solutions for the purchase of digital assets on any platform you choose, with ownership and usage rights enforced by the state.

Re: CSVCHAIN - NFTs backed by CSV technology

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Post by choward »

rfd4sgmk8u wrote: post #46
A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #10

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No, this is gross. It implies that marriage certificates grants you the exclusive rights to have sex with another party.

No it doesn't. You just made that up. Your comment implies you're just someone who likes to go looking for things to get outraged about. See, I can make up "implications" too.

Re: CSVCHAIN - NFTs backed by CSV technology

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Post by howdydoo »

xrd wrote: post #71
asciimike wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the event of using 2 1GB drives with one stored in the sock drawer, how do we prevent the quite literal "evil maid" attacks altering the CSVCHAIN? Additionally, if we do use this mechanism, I petition to fork the name from CSVCHAIN to SockChain.

I don't know how many times I need to repeat this FACT on this site, but socks are NOT immutable. How many holes do you have in your 7 year old socks? I'd wager a LOT. How many mismatched socks do you have in your drawer? I'd wager, AGAIN, a LOT. The only way to make this truly secure, is to have 2 USB thumb drives, plugged into a different side of the machine (god hope you have a machine with USB ports on both sides…

Socks are in fact immutable infrastructure. When your EC2 instance crashes, you shut it down and provision a new one. When your socks get holes, you throw them out and buy new ones. This isn't 2010 anymore, you really think people debug their servers and mend their socks?

Re: CSVCHAIN - NFTs backed by CSV technology

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Post by xrd »

howdydoo wrote: post #75
xrd wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know how many times I need to repeat this FACT on this site, but socks are NOT immutable. How many holes do you have in your 7 year old socks? I'd wager a LOT. How many mismatched socks do you have in your drawer? I'd wager, AGAIN, a LOT. The only way to make this truly secure, is to have 2 USB thumb drives, plugged into a different side of the machine (god hope you have a machine with USB ports on both sides…

Socks are in fact immutable infrastructure. When your EC2 instance crashes, you shut it down and provision a new one. When your socks get holes, you throw them out and buy new ones. This isn't 2010 anymore, you really think people debug their servers and mend their socks?

You are thinking about threads, not socks. It's the threading technology you need to review; HINT: the color matters.

Re: CSVCHAIN - NFTs backed by CSV technology

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Post by ForgotMyPwOops »

heyitsguay wrote: post #72
ForgotMyPwOops wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I misunderstand your point but intellectual property can only exist under a legal system, this seems like a shallow 'gotcha'

No, it's a thorough gotcha for a shallow topic to which money has given the illusion of depth. If you need a centralized entity to enforce the rights associated with a decentralized system, the decentralized system is unnecessary. We've long had solutions for the purchase of digital assets on any platform you choose, with ownership and usage rights enforced by the state.

Your implicit claim is that NFTs offer nothing more than decentralization which is not true, as it's basis is a public tamper resistant ledger that is difficult to censor. How many systems like this exist already? How many are easier to use than NFTs? How many of your prospective customers are likely to know about or want to use this alternate system versus NFTs?

To claim it has no benefits other than decentralization seems odd to me

Edit: I can't respond past this point as I'm being throttled

Re: CSVCHAIN - NFTs backed by CSV technology

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Post by choward »

heyitsguay wrote: post #72
ForgotMyPwOops wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I misunderstand your point but intellectual property can only exist under a legal system, this seems like a shallow 'gotcha'

No, it's a thorough gotcha for a shallow topic to which money has given the illusion of depth. If you need a centralized entity to enforce the rights associated with a decentralized system, the decentralized system is unnecessary. We've long had solutions for the purchase of digital assets on any platform you choose, with ownership and usage rights enforced by the state.

Exactly. This is my problem with all these things people claim blockchain technology will solve. People think it's magically going to solve all the problems created by the government. They think it's a work around to fix corruption.

No matter how hard you blockchain you're still under the law of the government. You still have to pay taxes in your country's currency. Your "decentralized" blockchain still relies on centralization. Your internet infrastructure is centralized and ran usually by the government. The power grid you depend on is centralized.

My point is your blockchain technology still relies on the government. China even outlawed Bitcoin mining. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO FIX POLITICAL PROBLEMS WITH BLOCKCHAIN.

Re: CSVCHAIN - NFTs backed by CSV technology

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Post by gallamine »

bambax wrote: post #23
neiled wrote: post #14

This sounds a lot like Matt Levine's newsletter today (Money Stuff). So funny!

Yes it does. It's curious since he's listed as the first owner on this, and just announced he was making an Excelchain (like CSVchain but with Excel -- the more technology the better I guess?) Matt Levine is a great writer. I have little interest in finance but enjoy his newsletter immensely. Highly recommended.

they're in reverse chronological orders so Levine's was just added.

Re: CSVCHAIN - NFTs backed by CSV technology

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Post by lmarcos »

A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #47
kgwgk wrote: post #32

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No. You are the random guy and Opensea is the street. (And it’s not a picture/wife that you sell, is an NFT/certificate.)

Sure, but how am I different from million other guys on the street or Opensea. Lets start at the beginning. You have analogy wrong ( which is a problem with analogies - they are open to interpretation ). The joke part says the following: 1. You have a wife. 2. She is not behaving like your wife. 3. You have a marriage certificate saying she is your wife And NFTs follow the same pattern, because: NFTs say they are you…

> As a guy on the street, I only see a value of selling fake wife certificate. I do not see value buying it.

You just described the whole NFT scam. I would love to produce pngs I can sell for thousands of dollars. I won't buy NFTs not even for a penny.

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