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My Personal Note Taking Journey

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Re: My Personal Note Taking Journey

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Post by rg111 »

Tomte wrote: post #29
scriptdevil wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can easily set up sync using SyncThing or Dropbox or any other tool that syncs directories between devices. I did pay $25 because I enjoy using Obsidian - but I don't think there is anything missing in the free version. The best part is that everything including themes, plugins and themes are synced perfectly between desktop and mobile.

> You can easily set up sync using SyncThing Unless you're on iOS/iPadOS, as far as I know.

For android, there is box, sync, MEGA, etc. There are more.

Re: My Personal Note Taking Journey

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Post by rg111 »

Tomte wrote: post #55
darkteflon wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can use iCloud to sync everything - your actual notes and the workspace files. Easy, free, works great.

I never managed to do that. Obsidian insisted on putting its vault in its own folder, not on iCloud, IIRC. Is there a guide how to set it up?

You just set up a two way sync.

One folder- a Notes folder where all your "vault"s are- on your phone. That syncs with a folder on the cloud. Then get the sync app client on your laptop/PC. Then sync a local folder from your laptop with the cloud folder.

The Obsidian for desktop app is pretty great.

The whole thing works great for me.

So it's like this-

    _______                  _________________                        ________
    |phone |---------------> |cloud           | |folder|
    -------                  ------------------                       --------
This method is tried and platform agnostic. All you need is a client that is available for your platform.

Re: My Personal Note Taking Journey

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Post by rg111 »

rvieira wrote: post #32

My journey was somewhat similar (Evernote, Any.do, Bear, Noteplan, Obsidian, LoqSeq) but now I've settled with org-{mode, roam}. There was always _something_ missing from those apps. If you have time and inclination, Emacs can be customised to behave almost exactly like you want it.

Have you tried RemNote?

Re: My Personal Note Taking Journey

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Post by rg111 »

hannofcart wrote: post #41
darkteflon wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can use iCloud to sync everything - your actual notes and the workspace files. Easy, free, works great.

Assuming all the devices you work on are Apple devices. Some people use iPhones but work on Windows/Linux.

My method is platform agnostic.

You set up all your vaults under the same folder. You 2-way sync that folder to a cloud folder- Dropbox, MEGA, sync, box- whatever. You then create a folder with the same name on another device, and then use the client for your cloud service for that platform, and then set up two way sync with that folder on the cloud.

Works great with my Android-PopOS system.

Also tried it with Android-macOS, and iOS-Windows.

Re: My Personal Note Taking Journey

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Post by Tomte »

rg111 wrote: post #72
Tomte wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never managed to do that. Obsidian insisted on putting its vault in its own folder, not on iCloud, IIRC. Is there a guide how to set it up?

You just set up a two way sync. One folder- a Notes folder where all your "vault"s are- on your phone. That syncs with a folder on the cloud. Then get the sync app client on your laptop/PC. Then sync a local folder from your laptop with the cloud folder. The Obsidian for desktop app is pretty great. The whole thing works great for me. So it's like this- _______ _________________ ________ |phone |---------------> |clo…

> One folder- a Notes folder where all your "vault"s are- on your phone. That syncs with a folder on the cloud.

Not if Obsidian doesn't let me choose the folder, because the sync apps don't have access to its default folder.

Re: My Personal Note Taking Journey

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Post by vertis »

_7jf7 wrote: post #69
vertis wrote: post #68

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Right, it was a massive generalization. However, I highly doubt those people are using Windows 98 (insert other example), and they probably did at some point (depending on age, ecosystem etc). They may well not be using the 'most current' version of the software, and I can think of a few pieces of software where that's been the case for me too. Either because I don't use it enough to justify the upgrade, or I activel…

> But eventually, if they want to continue doing the task they'll end up paying for a new version. Freehand[1] has been discontinued for almost two decades, and ten years ago I was still able to use it to great effect. Heck, if I wanted to use it today I probably could, thanks to Wine[2]. > however it's still got a lifespan that eventually requires the next payment. Unless you wait so long that a competitor arises or…

I almost mentioned competitors, I consider buying a competitors product to be an example in support of my argument, and open-source the exception. I too own a copy of Affinity, because I don't use those features enough to justify the rent-seeking that Adobe does.

I don't think we disagree as much as you think, I'm not arguing in favour of subscriptions. I'm simply pointing out that the majority of the companies that have avoided subscription models still have to make money and they do that by only releasing features in new versions of the software. Only supporting new platforms with new versions.

When it comes to technically competant users, there are usally alternatives that allow usage (as you suggest), but those aren't realistic for the majority of users.

Software creators must take in money to support themselves (or else work for free, as is the case with open-source). That can either be in the form of subscriptions, paid upgrades, or donations.

Given the constant onward march of technology and platforms, eventually they'll get you (or their competitor will get you), and you'll open your wallet again.

Re: My Personal Note Taking Journey

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Post by 1123581321 »

kirso wrote: post #17

I am a Logseq user. One thing I realised is that PKM people tend to spend 99% of intellectualising and fetishising different systems like Zettlekasten and P.A.R.A. when in the end your output is what matters. I wasted months, just to realise the tools or systems do not matter at all. Interlinking notes doesn't scientifically make you a better writer, writing does.

If you were fetishizing someone else's system with no thought to your needs, it's good you stopped. But don't you find that you write and research better with a better command of your notes and documents? Do you not much care what sources end up going into your writing and to what extent?

Re: My Personal Note Taking Journey

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Post by icedata »

vertis wrote: post #44
francis-io wrote: post #39

Is it just me, but using local files just gives me an uneasy feeling when it comes to robust backups. How do I make sure my local files are backed up somewhere? What happens when I want to revert? How do I really know I didn't accidentally just wipe out all my notes locally with a bad command. How do I 100% know that changes I made on my desktop are reflected on other devices? The obvious solution is to keep files in…

Obsidian has a git plugin that I've been using for a while. It's pretty configurable for frequency of commits, and I've never had a problem with it. It is at the end of the day a directory of Markdown files, so it's flexible with other tools. I have a bunch of things like Markdownload configured to write into various sub-directories.

I also use git to make backups of my org-mode files. I made a simple script in git bash for windows to commit changes to local repo and then push to a remote repo. I did this because I discovered that dropbox was no longer versioning my org files as I expected. Not sure why but I'm way more comfortable with a local and remote git repo. I run the script several times a day. There are libraries for emacs that can automate this process but I haven't bothered.

Re: My Personal Note Taking Journey

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Post by austhrow743 »

latexr wrote: post #65
austhrow743 wrote: post #26

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The evidence is all the companies moving to subscriptions and not back. It’s searching app stores and seeing all the non subscription prices being <$20.

Companies move to subscriptions because it’s more lucrative to them, not because customers prefer it.

What else could prefer mean in this case other than that people are willing to pay more money when it’s a subscription?

Of course people rather pay $10 x 1 than $10 x some number greater than 1. They rather pay $10x1 than $100x1 as well. All else being equal people prefer to pay less for things.

When more are willing to pay $10x20 than $100x1 I don’t know what you’d call that other than expressing a preference.

Re: My Personal Note Taking Journey

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Post by austhrow743 »

fredoliveira wrote: post #38
austhrow743 wrote: post #26

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The evidence is all the companies moving to subscriptions and not back. It’s searching app stores and seeing all the non subscription prices being <$20.

Well that's no evidence. That's just the market adjusting to aim for the higher margin model. Doesn't mean this is what users prefer – it just means this is what the companies behind the apps (and thus making the $) prefer.

If companies just increased their prices that would mean higher margins as well.
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