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Re: DoorDash is requiring engineers to deliver food

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Post by todd3834 »

felipellrocha wrote: post #69
todd3834 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another thing to consider is one less dash, per employee, available for the dashers who might need the money. Perhaps there are not enough to be significant but if you dash by the office I bet you’ll notice.

One less dash hardly makes a difference, but you benefit from the engineer feeling the experience first-hand by dog fooding the product.

Multiply by the number of employees mostly saturated in a radius around the office. Perhaps still not a big impact but surely noticeable if that's your neighborhood.

Re: DoorDash is requiring engineers to deliver food

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Post by dang »

chx wrote: post #11

Previously https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29716186

Thanks! Macroexpanded:

Every DoorDash employee, from engineers to CEO, will make deliveries - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29716186 - Dec 2021 (152 comments)

DoorDash will require all employees to deliver goods - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29675076 - Dec 2021 (133 comments)

Re: DoorDash is requiring engineers to deliver food

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Post by windowsrookie »

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #26
windowsrookie wrote: post #15

Requiring the engineer to actually use the product they are working on in real life is good. Maybe it can help make the experience better for the dashers, the restaurants, and the company. That $400,000/yr engineer makes more money in a day than a DoorDash worker makes in 2 weeks working full time. I do not feel any sympathy for the 1 dash they will have to make a month.

what does the engineers salary have to do with anything

"what does the engineers salary have to do with anything"

The engineers salary (actually total compensation, not salary) was quoted in the article.

"An engineer with a reported total compensation, or TC, of $400,000 a year griped about the responsibility of having to do a once-a-month delivery. “What the actual f—k?” the engineer wrote on the platform. “I didn’t sign up for this, there was nothing in the offer letter/job description about this.”"

I am suggesting that if you make $400,000 a year, one minor inconvenience a month by actually using the product you are working on really isn't something you should complain about.

Re: DoorDash is requiring engineers to deliver food

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Post by windowsrookie »

valeness wrote: post #36
windowsrookie wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These engineers are paid incredibly well. If they can't handle spending 30 minutes once a month taking a delivery, then they can work somewhere else.

Yes, precisely, they will get paid extremely well somewhere else where this is not part of the expected job duties. And in my opinion, the doordash product will suffer for it.

That is even better then. This will filter out the complainers and drama queens, leaving the employees who actually want to make a better product.

Re: DoorDash is requiring engineers to deliver food

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

windowsrookie wrote: post #73
VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what does the engineers salary have to do with anything

"what does the engineers salary have to do with anything" The engineers salary (actually total compensation, not salary) was quoted in the article. "An engineer with a reported total compensation, or TC, of $400,000 a year griped about the responsibility of having to do a once-a-month delivery. “What the actual f—k?” the engineer wrote on the platform. “I didn’t sign up for this, there was nothing in the offer letter…

What if the engineer doesn't have a car or a disability? That would be a problem, if it's not on contract

Re: DoorDash is requiring engineers to deliver food

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Post by azinman2 »

Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #75
windowsrookie wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"what does the engineers salary have to do with anything" The engineers salary (actually total compensation, not salary) was quoted in the article. "An engineer with a reported total compensation, or TC, of $400,000 a year griped about the responsibility of having to do a once-a-month delivery. “What the actual f—k?” the engineer wrote on the platform. “I didn’t sign up for this, there was nothing in the offer letter…

What if the engineer doesn't have a car or a disability? That would be a problem, if it's not on contract

That’s clearly not the issue at hand.

Re: DoorDash is requiring engineers to deliver food

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Post by azinman2 »

alexktz wrote: post #32
somethingAlex wrote: post #7

They did this at chick-fil-a corporate as well. An extremely competent product manager described the yearly experience as “standing around not knowing what I should do and trying not to get in the way.” Those kitchens get hectic, super different than being in the office.

I wonder how society would change in general if we were all forced to step out of our comfort zones once a month? Make me become a garbage man for the day, or a barista or a gas station attendant. Perhaps it would engender some empathy between different areas of society and reduce the overall sense of entitlement some folks seem to have.

Personally I’d like to see a return of mandatory draft or civil service. I think merging people across all boundaries to forge common experience could only serve to improve society.

Re: DoorDash is requiring engineers to deliver food

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Post by Brian_K_White »

Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #75
windowsrookie wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"what does the engineers salary have to do with anything" The engineers salary (actually total compensation, not salary) was quoted in the article. "An engineer with a reported total compensation, or TC, of $400,000 a year griped about the responsibility of having to do a once-a-month delivery. “What the actual f—k?” the engineer wrote on the platform. “I didn’t sign up for this, there was nothing in the offer letter…

What if the engineer doesn't have a car or a disability? That would be a problem, if it's not on contract

Addressed in the article you must not have read yet somehow have opinions on.

Re: DoorDash is requiring engineers to deliver food

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Post by Brian_K_White »

valeness wrote: post #54
adventured wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It definitely is. Any engineer that won't eat their own dog food (if at all possible) is net a mediocre engineer, or otherwise immature (hasn't progressed far enough in their career; doesn't yet realize how much they don't know). DoorDash is better off without many of those types. It's an excellent way to clear the house of engineers that are more likely to hold back the product than advance it. Which of course doesn…

In all of my experience, it has never been engineers misunderstanding the users. It has always, ALWAYS, been C-suites, Executives, and VPs pushing product features to 1. Entice investors 2. Planning for some external company event like a merger 3. Pandering to analysts 4. Pandering to the sales department, who again, sell into VPs and not to users I think it's incredibly out of touch to suggest engineers are the ones…

Article says ceo does dashes too.
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