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Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by sbst32 »

polote wrote: post #44

It has always been like that on Tinder. My phone number can't create a new account for example (never receive the confirmation code). That's called shadowban in the case of OP. Bumble started doing the same practices a year ago (which makes sense as they have the same founder) But they are not 100% wrong, Tinder is not here to make people meet each other. They are here to make money and people don't pay because they…

>> That's called shadowban in the case of OP. Bumble started doing the same practices a year ago (which makes sense as they have the same founder)

Not arguing with the point you're making, but Bumble and Tinder founders are definitely not the same.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by vxNsr »

JamesLeonis wrote: post #48

My 2¢; OP should do a charge-back. If anything bots don't do chargebacks. While you have no recourse in free services, you do when you pay with a credit card. Likewise the CC will still charge Tinder the processing fee of 1%-3%, so every chargeback is not only revenue lost but also a cost. Unfortunately all that advice is void if OP used a debit card.

Pretty sure you can still do a chargeback with a debit card if the purchase was made “on credit” as all online purchases are.

But wanted to add another thing, chargebacks are for cases of fraud, so the cc network actually charges the retailer a not insignificant fee for each chargeback, it’s why BigTech will shutdown your account if you do a chargeback, bec 9/10 times if it’s on your account you did mean to spend that money you just forgot about it. If you didn’t you better be ready to prove it and still burn the account that you chargeback on (i.e. lose your gmail account bec someone compromised your account and bought stuff on android)

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by NumberCruncher »

newyankee wrote: post #24
giantg2 wrote: post #19

This is basically the paradigm of any monopolistic or near monopolistic system. You can screw over a small minority without provoking a real response so long as you are appeasing or distracting the majority. Big tech, traditional companies, and even government.

Moreover Tinder has an incentive to keep the paid users paid my making sure it is difficult for them to find a match. The most lucrative customers for matchmaking sites are the most desperate. Even with a lot of competition due to network effects most of the people would always be driven to the most popular sites.

> Tinder has an incentive to keep the paid users paid my making sure it is difficult for them to find a match

An evil data scientist would put almost exclusively users on your screen who you are interested in but they are not interested in you to boost your spendings and would mix a small portion of good bidirectional matches just to make his purpose less obvious. Fortunately evil data scientists does not exist... I mean I definitely wasn't paid to do anything like that. Never.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by stevespang »

hvdijk wrote: post #30

From Tinder's ToS: > Tinder may terminate your account at any time without notice if it believes that you have violated this Agreement. Upon such termination, you will not be entitled to any refund for purchases. > For residents of the Republic of Korea, except in the case [...], we will without delay notify you of the reason for taking the relevant step. They openly say in advance that they'll ban users who they thi…

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Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by twomoonsbysurf »

hetspookjee wrote: post #34

Given the constant commodization of data science, I wonder how long it will take till there is a dating app that really knows you well, while keeping privacy in tact. And matches people with the goal to actually match properly. Tinder, and every dating app I know out there, is directly incentivized to _not_ match properly, but rather to keep you on the app as long as possible. As long as the bottom line is directly i…

Yep. And Tinder seemed so useful just a few years ago. More recently, perhaps some management there has got together and changed to exactly the sort of strategy you speak of. I barely use it anymore.

But back in the golden days of Tinder... (say 7-8 years ago or so-- 2014ish) Tinder worked really well to deliver many matches. These days... very few matches compared to Bumble or Hinge for example.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by wayoutthere »

polote wrote: post #44

It has always been like that on Tinder. My phone number can't create a new account for example (never receive the confirmation code). That's called shadowban in the case of OP. Bumble started doing the same practices a year ago (which makes sense as they have the same founder) But they are not 100% wrong, Tinder is not here to make people meet each other. They are here to make money and people don't pay because they…

As a woman, Tinder is fine if you wanna find a fuck buddy and don’t take it seriously. I see a lot of people (men and women) get wrapped up in the swipe game and that’s really not how it works. You can’t take anything that happens on that platform personally.

Unfortunately, rule #1 on tinder is “be physically attractive”. If you want tinder to work for you consistently as a man, get your personal hygiene in order and hit the gym. That’s the main reason I swipe left; well, that and conservative politics.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by 3np »

najqh wrote: post #17

You were already shadowbanned permanently, that's why you had 0 likes. There is no difference between that and having no account at all since you cannot interact with any broads. By removing your account, they did you a favour in a sense. Get a burner SIM card with a new number and create another profile. Easy as that.

> Get a burner SIM card with a new number and create another profile. Easy as that.

People keep saying this without realizing a lot of people practically can’t these days. In an increasing number of countries, getting an SMS/phone-capable SIM can not be done without KYC/ID verification. Where I live, for example, you even need to be a resident; all prepaids are data-only.

And before you tell me to find a homeless drug-addict and make them get one for me, it’s not that easy and no one should have to do that in the first place.

Same restrictions apply for SkypeIn and similar VoIP services (which BtW come in a separate prefix that most of these services blacklist anyway).

There’s a reason why those dodgy “receive anyonymous SMS” sites all only provide the same handful of countries.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by KptMarchewa »

mazugrin2 wrote: post #52

Maybe don't refer to women as "girls"? Unless you are seeking romance with girls. Either way, I'm suspicious already and can see why a service intended to match adults with other adults (i.e., not girls) would be creeped out by you.

Have you heard of "cultural differences"? Author is from Kiev. Now, I'm not Ukrainian, but in Polish refering to "women" as "dziewczyna" not "kobieta" in romantic setting would not be any weird.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by polote »

sbst32 wrote: post #71
polote wrote: post #44

It has always been like that on Tinder. My phone number can't create a new account for example (never receive the confirmation code). That's called shadowban in the case of OP. Bumble started doing the same practices a year ago (which makes sense as they have the same founder) But they are not 100% wrong, Tinder is not here to make people meet each other. They are here to make money and people don't pay because they…

>> That's called shadowban in the case of OP. Bumble started doing the same practices a year ago (which makes sense as they have the same founder) Not arguing with the point you're making, but Bumble and Tinder founders are definitely not the same.

The founder of Bumble is one of the founders of Tinder. But others founders of Tinder are not founders of Bumble, this is true. Also we could argue that Bumble has two founders, but this is insignificant anyway
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