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Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

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Post by gruez »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #54
greatgib wrote: post #50

> Looking at that, I'm wondering who is stupid enough to buy a new device from them like this. It is like 'bite me once, bite me again please.'. 'eh, we just self destroyed your device, because, fuck you, but here is a coupon to buy a new one from us that we will also kill in a few years' ...

I dunno, I'd have to do a TCO analysis; if they give you 40% off, and you just assume it'll die after X years but be fully supported for that time and then you upgrade to a faster unit with next-gen wifi or whatever, it could still work out to be a good deal. Like... not my cup of tea (TCO is even nicer when the unit's lifespan is indefinite), but it's a plausible tradeoff.

>and then you upgrade to a faster unit with next-gen wifi or whatever

Do people actually need next-gen wifi? My impression is that 99.9+% of people would be well served by a mid-range 802.11ac router (eg. AC1750[1]) from years ago, because the most bandwidth intensive thing they do is watch 4k netflix (~25 Mb/s).

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac-2013

Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

#72

Post by tw04 »

zmj wrote: post #66
greatgib wrote: post #50

> Looking at that, I'm wondering who is stupid enough to buy a new device from them like this. It is like 'bite me once, bite me again please.'. 'eh, we just self destroyed your device, because, fuck you, but here is a coupon to buy a new one from us that we will also kill in a few years' ...

I probably will. The OnHub has performed substantially better than the other consumer wireless routers I've used, and after 5 years it's due to be replaced anyway. Might as well take the discount.

I would suggest taking a look at synology. The 2600ac is going on 6 years old and about to get the latest feature release (1.3) with no immediate plans to eol it. And unlike Google they have a long history of LTS.

Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

#73

Post by cube00 »

zmj wrote: post #66
greatgib wrote: post #50

> Looking at that, I'm wondering who is stupid enough to buy a new device from them like this. It is like 'bite me once, bite me again please.'. 'eh, we just self destroyed your device, because, fuck you, but here is a coupon to buy a new one from us that we will also kill in a few years' ...

I probably will. The OnHub has performed substantially better than the other consumer wireless routers I've used, and after 5 years it's due to be replaced anyway. Might as well take the discount.

Make sure you check out some of the other "pro-sumer" lines first. I moved from a flaky consumer router which dropped Wifi all the time to a Ubiquiti which has been rock solid.

I'm not recommending Ubiquiti specifically given recent events but just using it as an example of a prosumer brand, even a few years old now and it still gets firmware updates, where as my old consumer router would be lucky to get any updates at all.

Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

#74

Post by admax88qqq »

gruez wrote: post #71
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dunno, I'd have to do a TCO analysis; if they give you 40% off, and you just assume it'll die after X years but be fully supported for that time and then you upgrade to a faster unit with next-gen wifi or whatever, it could still work out to be a good deal. Like... not my cup of tea (TCO is even nicer when the unit's lifespan is indefinite), but it's a plausible tradeoff.

>and then you upgrade to a faster unit with next-gen wifi or whatever Do people actually need next-gen wifi? My impression is that 99.9+% of people would be well served by a mid-range 802.11ac router (eg. AC1750[1]) from years ago, because the most bandwidth intensive thing they do is watch 4k netflix (~25 Mb/s). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac-2013

I'm sure people said the same thing about 802.11ac when everyone was on n, or n when everyone was on g.

Faster is always better. New 802.11ax also improves contention between devices.

Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

#75

Post by evenhovercraft »

ay wrote: post #11

And that is why the very first thing every new WiFi router in my household gets is a fresh installation of OpenWRT in place of whatever vendor software it has. And I look at compatibility matrix before buying it. This strategy has worked very well. I upgrade on my terms.

This guy doesn’t play by the rules!

Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

#76

Post by sosodev »

cube00 wrote: post #73
zmj wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I probably will. The OnHub has performed substantially better than the other consumer wireless routers I've used, and after 5 years it's due to be replaced anyway. Might as well take the discount.

Make sure you check out some of the other "pro-sumer" lines first. I moved from a flaky consumer router which dropped Wifi all the time to a Ubiquiti which has been rock solid. I'm not recommending Ubiquiti specifically given recent events but just using it as an example of a prosumer brand, even a few years old now and it still gets firmware updates, where as my old consumer router would be lucky to get any updates…

Yes! I’ve been using a Microtik router and Ubiquiti access point for a couple years now with zero issues.

Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

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Post by wtallis »

admax88qqq wrote: post #74
gruez wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>and then you upgrade to a faster unit with next-gen wifi or whatever Do people actually need next-gen wifi? My impression is that 99.9+% of people would be well served by a mid-range 802.11ac router (eg. AC1750[1]) from years ago, because the most bandwidth intensive thing they do is watch 4k netflix (~25 Mb/s). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac-2013

I'm sure people said the same thing about 802.11ac when everyone was on n, or n when everyone was on g. Faster is always better. New 802.11ax also improves contention between devices.

At the moment, I would definitely choose an older 802.11ac device with mature open-source drivers over any 802.11ax device. Especially since last I checked, the only affordable 802.11ax routers were limited to 2T2R, so they would be a step backwards in peak throughout for some client devices.

Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

#79

Post by pantalaimon »

zmj wrote: post #66
greatgib wrote: post #50

> Looking at that, I'm wondering who is stupid enough to buy a new device from them like this. It is like 'bite me once, bite me again please.'. 'eh, we just self destroyed your device, because, fuck you, but here is a coupon to buy a new one from us that we will also kill in a few years' ...

I probably will. The OnHub has performed substantially better than the other consumer wireless routers I've used, and after 5 years it's due to be replaced anyway. Might as well take the discount.

> after 5 years it's due to be replaced anyway

Are people really replacing their home network infrastructure every 5 years?

Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

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Post by gjsman-1000 »

pantalaimon wrote: post #79
zmj wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I probably will. The OnHub has performed substantially better than the other consumer wireless routers I've used, and after 5 years it's due to be replaced anyway. Might as well take the discount.

> after 5 years it's due to be replaced anyway Are people really replacing their home network infrastructure every 5 years?

Heck no - ask an ISP, they keep them boxes in homes till they drop.
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