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President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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I find it highly entertaining that they talk about denying rights and then deny the whole of the EU access because they insist on violating their readers' privacy rights and that would be illegal in the EU.

They probably just don't want to put a cookie banner on their student newspaper to comply with foreign regulations

They wouldn't have to if they didn't invade your privacy to begin with.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not legal reasons it's laziness. GDPR compliance really doesn't cost a lot despite what a lot of legal shills spout...

If it costs more than zero and you don’t care about euros not visiting your site, it makes sense. For example if you have ads or external analytics (practically 100% of websites) you need a cookie banner. Best to restrict access than to annoy your innocent users.

>For example if you have ads or external analytics

It is not about ads or analytics and about collecting private data without consent. Just to remind americans GDPR does not specifically target the Internet, it apples for real world places with physical paper (like you got to a lab and want to do some tests they are forced to tell you what they will do with your private data and you have to agree or not).

You can have no tracking ads or analytics that do not record private data just fine, you can also have non tracking cookies without a popup. But honestly it makes sense that there is a big rich group that spread a lot of FUD about this stuff so many places will just decide not to server EU. If you never seen such GDPR popup maybe you should try to have a look at some of them, see how many "partners" this people share your tracking data with and how scummy the UX patherns they use are.

Btw I am 100% fine with some US resources blocking me, I can go read soemthing else and for sure not try workaround for accessing this people page.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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post #51
post #8

I find it highly entertaining that they talk about denying rights and then deny the whole of the EU access because they insist on violating their readers' privacy rights and that would be illegal in the EU.

They probably just don't want to put a cookie banner on their student newspaper to comply with foreign regulations

Or they could just not track readers with cookies and not collect their private data.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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post #8

I find it highly entertaining that they talk about denying rights and then deny the whole of the EU access because they insist on violating their readers' privacy rights and that would be illegal in the EU.

What makes you day they are violating readers' privacy rights? It's a not-for-profit student newspaper, they probably just don't want to risk GDPR fines. Or they don't expect readers from Europe.

Why would they be fined if they're not violating their readers' privacy?

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Please report any suspected collaborators with the Chinese secret police to the DEI campus safety board. All suspects will need to report to the DEI offices for re-education. Joking, but they literally do the exact same shit to Republicans.

Purdue is not a coastal liberal arts university. You’re unlikely to find support for restrictions on freedom of speech there.

And my original comment was flagged. If it weren't accurate, the response would be eye rolling, not flagging

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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> 451: Unavailable due to legal reasons

A touch over dramatic, verging on smug given that it’s a nerd in-joke.

(If you didn’t know, this HTTP status code is a tongue in cheek reference to the dystopian sci-fi novel Fahrenheit 451 where information is outlawed.)

I could elaborate but unfortunately due to our safety and security policies I am unable to comment further. Your wellbeing is my number one priority.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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" Those seeking to deny those rights " are not, in the sense that matters, individual students. This is a state pursuit, a state seeking to... Chinese points of priority are going to continue increasing in relevance. " Is the CCP good? " is not an acceptable conversation topic, in chinese, even in Purdue. Superpower superpowers, so to speak. The US has some of these too.

By “those,” they mean the other Chinese students that harassed him after his speech and more than likely reported him to the Chinese government. Did you read the article?

I understand.

Still, this is a state effort. The state/ccp made of people. The other students, the chinese officers.. the parents who got a visit in China. This is not all that different from how college "censorship" works in china itself..

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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post #8

I find it highly entertaining that they talk about denying rights and then deny the whole of the EU access because they insist on violating their readers' privacy rights and that would be illegal in the EU.

> because they insist on violating their readers' privacy rights and that would be illegal in the EU.

Bad assumption. Maybe an unpopular fact, but many sites simply block EU access to avoid potential legal pitfalls of navigating foreign laws. Getting the site compliant would require review from legal teams and work from (likely contracted) web developers, which is almost certainly not in the budget for a side site like this.

Not every website is backed by a corporation with on-staff web developers and corporate counsel to double-check everything. Their audience is primarily a local one, so allocating the budget to do this and maintain it isn’t worth it.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Excellent. Supporting free thought and expression is exactly what universities are supposed to do. I don't feel they've always done so sufficiently in recent years, but it's great to see them taking a stand here.

That's an easy stand to take. It would be more interesting to see what stand would they take on more controversial subjects that also support free thought and expression.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes you day they are violating readers' privacy rights? It's a not-for-profit student newspaper, they probably just don't want to risk GDPR fines. Or they don't expect readers from Europe.

Why would they be fined if they're not violating their readers' privacy?

As someone who has asked that question to a series of lawyers, the answer is surprisingly expensive.
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