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Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

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Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

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Post by pertymcpert »

tromp wrote: post #59
usehackernews wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its easy to cheat, but also easy to get caught. You can’t cheat yourself to a high score. The same engines that people cheat with are the same engines used to detect cheating. If you’re using an engine to play your moves, you’ll be caught very quickly.

It depends on how you use the engine. Obviously, picking its best move or nearly best move when they're close in value, will get you caught. But suppose you sample from the engine's ranked moves to have some decent ACPL (average centipawn loss) error rate. Just a slightly lower rate than you'd have on your own. If you further bias your sample to moves to that look reasonable to you, then I don't see how you'd get cau…

They already check for that.

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

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Post by avip »

AmericanChopper wrote: post #22
zarzavat wrote: post #17

Even if the quality of play in this match has been not great, one thing I really enjoyed was the extremely high class of commentary. Caruana, Giri, Anand, Svidler and Nakamura have been doing commentary (simultaneously!) throughout the match. It has been a real treat, I don't believe any match before has had such a deep level of live analysis. I have had five different streams open at times just to listen to them all…

I didn’t think the commentary was that good this year, too many awkward personalities. Anish was constantly talking over Judit. I tuned into to Vishy’s stream for a bit, but the person he had with him was incredibly awkward. I find Danny Rensch to be completely insufferable, which is a shame because Caruana is so good. Howell and Houska are pretty good, but they had some terrible guests on that stream, and all of the…

Caruana is the best. On top of his chess brilliancy he’s never rude or over dramatic. Infuriating that they IMxplainig over him.

Let Fabio speak!

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

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Post by [deleted] »

scbrg wrote: post #34
CalChris wrote: post #4

Game 6 was pretty tight and pretty good. You have to realize they were playing the last moves after midnight and they were playing them on increment, 30 seconds a move, basically rapid. Nepo's 'blunder' is an extremely natural looking move, 130. .. Qe6 and it only loses in 49 moves. But as was predicted before the match, if Nepo lost one it'd be an avalanche. Nepo only squeezed in because the Candidates tournament wa…

So, for anybody else who wasn't familiar with the term GOAT , and don't want to spend minutes fighting search engines all too eager to tell them about goat cheese, it apparently means to Greatest of All Time . Please explain obscure or very domain specific acronyms.

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Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

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Post by netcan »

pkulak wrote: post #16

Is it just me, or is Chess becoming a thing lately? I've recently started to really enjoy watching it (kinda hate playing it, haha), so maybe it's just because I'm paying attention?

Definitely. Bullet & Streaming have changed everything.

Every day we have world class GMs (including Magnus) playing online, streaming play, commentary & such. It's put a real buzz into the game. A lot of it has to do with the personalities of current competition GMs and top streamers at the top.

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

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Post by dreamer7 »

tephra wrote: post #48
zarzavat wrote: post #17

Even if the quality of play in this match has been not great, one thing I really enjoyed was the extremely high class of commentary. Caruana, Giri, Anand, Svidler and Nakamura have been doing commentary (simultaneously!) throughout the match. It has been a real treat, I don't believe any match before has had such a deep level of live analysis. I have had five different streams open at times just to listen to them all…

Svidler and Miro with the occasional kramnik and karjakin was great. I do miss the svidler gustie duo but we're not likely to get that while Jan is a second for Magnus.

Excuse my ignorance. Is Jan really that good of a player to be Magnus' second? Somehow his laidback style commentary made me feel he was not too serious with preparation

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

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Post by natrys »

AmericanChopper wrote: post #22
zarzavat wrote: post #17

Even if the quality of play in this match has been not great, one thing I really enjoyed was the extremely high class of commentary. Caruana, Giri, Anand, Svidler and Nakamura have been doing commentary (simultaneously!) throughout the match. It has been a real treat, I don't believe any match before has had such a deep level of live analysis. I have had five different streams open at times just to listen to them all…

I didn’t think the commentary was that good this year, too many awkward personalities. Anish was constantly talking over Judit. I tuned into to Vishy’s stream for a bit, but the person he had with him was incredibly awkward. I find Danny Rensch to be completely insufferable, which is a shame because Caruana is so good. Howell and Houska are pretty good, but they had some terrible guests on that stream, and all of the…

I missed the dry humour of Grischuk so much, it was a shame he was only doing commentary for Russian audience (in Russian).

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

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Post by thom »

smnplk wrote: post #31

Ha! I didn't know that Dubov was in in MC team :D What a legend. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_kW-HMNYRA

Was he? Svidler implied that given he was close to both Magnus and Ian, they'd all decided not to put him in a difficult position and ask him to take sides. But Magnus did say it was the same team I guess.

Either way, feels like we saw a couple of his lines come up. His influence on the game is fascinating.

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

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Post by thom »

dreamer7 wrote: post #75
tephra wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Svidler and Miro with the occasional kramnik and karjakin was great. I do miss the svidler gustie duo but we're not likely to get that while Jan is a second for Magnus.

Excuse my ignorance. Is Jan really that good of a player to be Magnus' second? Somehow his laidback style commentary made me feel he was not too serious with preparation

He's a good theoretician, and always shows interesting sidelines in his broadcasts. His job isn't to teach Magnus to be better at chess, it's to be on top of current theory and help anticipate what the opponent's team might prepare. I think Magnus's team has done that very well the last couple of cycles.

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

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Post by smnplk »

thom wrote: post #77
smnplk wrote: post #31

Ha! I didn't know that Dubov was in in MC team :D What a legend. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_kW-HMNYRA

Was he? Svidler implied that given he was close to both Magnus and Ian, they'd all decided not to put him in a difficult position and ask him to take sides. But Magnus did say it was the same team I guess. Either way, feels like we saw a couple of his lines come up. His influence on the game is fascinating.

Yes, he was. And there is a scandal brewing in Russian chess community over this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NP795z3NQA

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

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Post by OrderlyTiamat »

scbrg wrote: post #34
CalChris wrote: post #4

Game 6 was pretty tight and pretty good. You have to realize they were playing the last moves after midnight and they were playing them on increment, 30 seconds a move, basically rapid. Nepo's 'blunder' is an extremely natural looking move, 130. .. Qe6 and it only loses in 49 moves. But as was predicted before the match, if Nepo lost one it'd be an avalanche. Nepo only squeezed in because the Candidates tournament wa…

So, for anybody else who wasn't familiar with the term GOAT , and don't want to spend minutes fighting search engines all too eager to tell them about goat cheese, it apparently means to Greatest of All Time . Please explain obscure or very domain specific acronyms.

I'd recommend searching terms like "GOAT abbreviation" or "GOAT acronym" in such cases, both of which have explanations as first result for me. Otherwise, searching GOAT on wikipedia and going to disambiguation also has it under "other uses". wikipedia's disambiguation can be a bit overwhelming with long lists of other possible meanings, but it's usually helpful enough.
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