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Re: Ready For a Reddit Replacement?

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Post by xtracto »

haecib wrote: post #37
potatolicious wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMO it's all in the moderation. Reddit's very rudimentary up/downvote system, well, sucks. It lets the lowest common denominator rise to the top, which oddly enough is not what most users want to see. I'm imagining right now a Reddit with Slashdot's moderation system... but, I continue dreaming.

> Reddit's very rudimentary up/downvote system, well, sucks. It lets the lowest common denominator rise to the top, Which is why Hubski's solution is interesting. You're recognizing the quality of the content does not really lie in a singular post or link, but with the poster, in a general sense. There are certainly certain posters on Reddit who I know I can always look to for good content, -makes sense to have your…

>You're recognizing the quality of the content does not really lie in a singular post or link, but with the poster, in a general sense.

Correct me if I am wrong but, isn't that how Digg used to work? I remember there were these few prominent accounts that had a lot of posts "promoted" and made the site worthless when they started posting crap.

Re: Ready For a Reddit Replacement?

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Post by noglorp »

overcyn wrote: post #66
rorrr wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What reddit really needs is a ranking engine recommending users, submissions and comments to you based on the users you've friended and the comments and submissions you've upvoted. Do you realize the insane amount of calculations that would take? For each pageview you would have to find all stories in that subreddit, find all the authors, find all stories you ever voted on, find all the users you are friends with, an…

how is it much different from the ranking engines netflix and amazon use?

In those cases, users purely receive recommendations for media/products. In this case, users receive recommendations for other users to follow as well.

Re: Ready For a Reddit Replacement?

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Post by georgieporgie »

parfe wrote: post #22
georgieporgie wrote: post #4

Give users a basic IQ and personality test. Provide different content based upon where they fall.

What does IQ have to do with content? Steven Hawking could enjoy lolcats and your garbage man might be an ardent reader of philosophy. Stereotyping based on IQ or profession is fairly stupid. Smart people can like dumb things and dumb people can enjoy intellectual pursuits. If you want to pigeon hole people into categories go back to a high school cafeteria.

The only stereotyping and pigeon-holing here is on your part.

Re: Ready For a Reddit Replacement?

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Post by rorrr »

overcyn wrote: post #66
rorrr wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What reddit really needs is a ranking engine recommending users, submissions and comments to you based on the users you've friended and the comments and submissions you've upvoted. Do you realize the insane amount of calculations that would take? For each pageview you would have to find all stories in that subreddit, find all the authors, find all stories you ever voted on, find all the users you are friends with, an…

how is it much different from the ranking engines netflix and amazon use?

You can calculate the "weight" of the movie for a given user once. The number of movies is very low, compared to the number of stories on reddit.

Whatever that guy is proposing is an insanely complex dynamic system.

I'm not saying it's not doable, I'm just saying it's very expensive.

Re: Ready For a Reddit Replacement?

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Post by scorpion032 »

TheFunkyMonk wrote: post #43
rorrr wrote: post #3

Reddit's beauty is in sub-reddits. Don't like the front page? Just unsubscribe from it, and subscribe to whatever you like. http://forhiremedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/map-of-re...

Not only that, but multi-reddits as well. I've just got a bookmarks folder full of my favorite multi-reddits instead of a single Reddit bookmark to the front page. My Reddit bookmarks folder: Front Page: http://www.reddit.com/ News: http://www.reddit.com/r/business+economics+entertainment+lib... Tech: http://www.reddit.com/r/android+androidquestions+apple+bacon... Music: http://www.reddit.com/r/bass+hiphopheads+hipho…

Yup. Just unsubscribe from the popular sub reddits like pics, reddit.com and focus on technology, science, askscience and reddit is still as good as ever.

Re: Ready For a Reddit Replacement?

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Post by rorrr »

ak217 wrote: post #62
rorrr wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What reddit really needs is a ranking engine recommending users, submissions and comments to you based on the users you've friended and the comments and submissions you've upvoted. Do you realize the insane amount of calculations that would take? For each pageview you would have to find all stories in that subreddit, find all the authors, find all stories you ever voted on, find all the users you are friends with, an…

Sounds like a challenge :) First, this doesn't have to be for each pageview. Crudely, you want every story to have a vector in some giant hyperspace characterizing it, and every user to have a vector precomputed offline based on their previously shown affinities, and take dot products. This is not necessarily easy, or computationally very cheap, but the payoff can be pretty big. I believe LinkedIn runs something simi…

I'm not sure what you mean exactly, but hey, if you can pull it off, it might be successful.

Just think of the number of comments up/down voted every millisecond, and that's just one the dimensions. The scale of that matrix would be enormous.

Re: Ready For a Reddit Replacement?

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Post by robertskmiles »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #63
krashidov wrote: post #25

The reason I like reddit is because of the subreddits. There are, however, really great communities for discussing something really niche outside of reddit. Some of which have bigger communities with even better contributors than reddit. The problem is that they are using rather primitive forum systems like phpBB and the like. After using reddit, phpBB is like going to the stone age, imagine if hacker news was on a s…

"why doesn't reddit create a product that will allow any site to to have their own subreddit style page completely autonomous of reddit.com?" It's easy to do this on reddit itself: 1. Create a subreddit for your new forum. 2. In the subreddit control panel, enter the domain name you're going to use for it. 3. In your domain name registrar control panel, point your www cname at rhs.reddit.com. 4. Voila, you've got you…

I've done that, and it's not what you might call seamless. I tried to make the community its own entity, with its own look and feel. The problem is that the pages are full of links that take you back to reddit.com rather than their equivalent on your own domain. That's very confusing to non-redditors who suddenly find themselves on a seemingly unrelated site, with all the disorientation and styling-whiplash that entails.

It's a neat idea but it needs a lot more polish to be really useful.

Re: Ready For a Reddit Replacement?

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Post by parfe »

georgieporgie wrote: post #73
parfe wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does IQ have to do with content? Steven Hawking could enjoy lolcats and your garbage man might be an ardent reader of philosophy. Stereotyping based on IQ or profession is fairly stupid. Smart people can like dumb things and dumb people can enjoy intellectual pursuits. If you want to pigeon hole people into categories go back to a high school cafeteria.

The only stereotyping and pigeon-holing here is on your part.

Did you just "I know what you are, but what am I?" me?

Anyway, dumb and smart people do not have disparate interests. I bet you probably feel like you're in the smart category and you think that means other smart people think like you, but things like football, NASCAR and /r/jokes attract a wide swath of humanity. If I score high on my IQ test you going to show me nothing but "smart" pursuits? Chess, Go, Astrophysics? Bio chemistry? How about sustainable farming? Or animal husbandry? How about kinesiology? That qualify as smart to you? Or does hanging out with the jocks mean you're stupid by association?

You don't have to defend your statement to the death. You can just say "Geeze, I didn't think about it and IQ isn't really a good indicator for what a user may want to see as content."

Re: Ready For a Reddit Replacement?

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Post by a3camero »

rorrr wrote: post #74
overcyn wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

how is it much different from the ranking engines netflix and amazon use?

You can calculate the "weight" of the movie for a given user once. The number of movies is very low, compared to the number of stories on reddit. Whatever that guy is proposing is an insanely complex dynamic system. I'm not saying it's not doable, I'm just saying it's very expensive.

It might be less complicated then you'd expect (at least one way of doing it): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collaborative_filtering

The core idea is linear regression.

Here's Google's service: http://code.google.com/apis/predict/. Here's a commercial API service: http://www.directededge.com/.

Re: Ready For a Reddit Replacement?

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Post by georgieporgie »

parfe wrote: post #78
georgieporgie wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only stereotyping and pigeon-holing here is on your part.

Did you just "I know what you are, but what am I?" me? Anyway, dumb and smart people do not have disparate interests. I bet you probably feel like you're in the smart category and you think that means other smart people think like you, but things like football, NASCAR and /r/jokes attract a wide swath of humanity. If I score high on my IQ test you going to show me nothing but "smart" pursuits? Chess, Go, Astrophysics…

Did you just "I know what you are, but what am I?" me?

No.

What I said: serve up content based upon IQ and personality. Your response, regarding garbage men, was classist. Further, you seem to have assumed that I am advocating some sort of segregation based upon intelligence.

Or does hanging out with the jocks mean you're stupid by association?

Please show where I have indicated any of the projections contained in that ranting paragraph.

You don't have to defend your statement to the death. You can just say "Geeze, I didn't think about it and IQ isn't really a good indicator for what a user may want to see as content."

Your maligning of my statements is offensive. Additionally, you have done nothing whatsoever to show that intelligence and personality quizzes won't lead to better personalized content. Instead, you have merely been highly judgmental and attacked me based upon your own (apparent) prejudices.

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