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Re: Moving to Texas

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Post by Aloha »

techsupporter wrote: post #30

I was born in Texas and lived the first part of my adult life there. All of my family still lives there. But many years ago, I decamped for Seattle (before the tech boom really got started here) and, bluntly, I'm never going back. I wish everyone who is moving to Texas the best of luck and truly hope you succeed. But if you think moving to Dallas or Austin or Houston and putting a Beto sign on your front window is an…

I went the opposite way, I grew up in California, and lived in Seattle for 12 yeas, and I was miserable there. I moved to Texas in 2019, and I love it. I'm happier here, the weather suits me more, the warmth and openness of the people suits better too. The mythos of the state is both taken very seriously and a huge joke, even by native sons, we all poke fun at it, yet give it credence.

I want to change the economic and political structure of the state, many folks here do, we're neither screaming liberals, nor very conservative either, when I can actually get folks to visit here, they're surprised by what they find, its not what they expect, and they usually like it, even if they dont want to live here (usually the weather does not suit them).

Re: Moving to Texas

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Post by VWWHFSfQ »

threatofrain wrote: post #14
m_a_g wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you elaborate? I'm not from the U.S but I'm curious.

Texas is extremely hostile to abortion or legislation to fund matters related to reproductive health.

It's somewhat complicated by the issues around the "reproductive health" organizations focusing heavily on minority areas and aggressively promoting abortion and sterilization as a means of controlling poverty growth. There are people on both sides of the issue that don't really like that strategy despite it being very prevalent in traditionally progressive areas/states.

Re: Moving to Texas

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Post by massysett »

dang wrote: post #58
massysett wrote: post #53

[flagged]

Please don't pick the most provocative thing in an article and then paste it into the thread to complain about it. That seeds discussion with precisely the worst, most flammable and superficial points. Instead, we (all) need to train ourselves to (a) leave provocations where we encounter them and (b) focus on the genuinely interesting things. Then we have a chance at contributing to a good, interesting forum. https:/…

OK, so this is an honest question - if I didn't know you're a mod, I would argue with you instead. Should I just flag these kinds of posts then, or just completely ignore them? Because honestly, articles like this are just junk. The headline of the article and its entire orientation is around a ridiculous premise. It's not like this was a single provocative thing in the article with the rest of it being filled with interesting nuggets. It's a junk article entirely based around the ridiculous premise that this author's pet preferences are why "everyone" or even why a lot of people are moving to Texas.

Re: Moving to Texas

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Post by dang »

betwixthewires wrote: post #70
dang wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't pick the most provocative thing in an article and then paste it into the thread to complain about it. That seeds discussion with precisely the worst, most flammable and superficial points. Instead, we (all) need to train ourselves to (a) leave provocations where we encounter them and (b) focus on the genuinely interesting things. Then we have a chance at contributing to a good, interesting forum. https:/…

I agree that conversations get more contentious and less productive when these things are brought up, but if it was a point made in the article it is arguably less productive to discussion to just ignore it and not bring it up at all. We are talking about the article after all, and the article says what it says.

With issues like that I always return to the first principle of HN: we're trying to optimize this site for intellectual curiosity (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...). Since that's the overriding value, the answer easily follows: if there's something that gratifies intellectual curiosity in an article, bring that up and let discussion flow from there; if there's nothing that gratifies intellectual curiosity, then the article is off topic and should be flagged.

Either way, we should abstain from predictable provocations and tedious flamewars. They may feel intense and exciting for a while but they lead to a degraded and ultimately boring forum.

Most articles are a mixed bag: they (hopefully) contain things that can lead to interesting conversation, and they often also contain provocations that will lead to angry, repetitive arguments if amplified. We don't, for example, need yet another generic ideological flamewar. There's no curiosity in those.

Therefore, "it's in the article" is not by itself a good reason for bringing something into a thread here. If an article is burning in places, that does not mean that we should import the flames. Seed discussion with the least predictable, most curious aspects of an article, not the ones that point to hell.

Re: Moving to Texas

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Post by razorfen »

r3trohack3r wrote: post #32
foobiekr wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well. I’ve spent some time working on retirement options since my wife and I are close. Arizona really has nothing to recommend it. Florida does, but southern Florida is kind of a wasteland with pending climate issues and northern Florida is a trashy hell hole. I have family there. If not for the cultural issues it would be a no brainer but who wants to retire somewhere awful? Taxes-wise, I think California is underr…

> Arizona really has nothing to recommend it I’ve been living in PHX for 2+ years now, and have to disagree. Low cost of living and high QoL. Great school districts and master plan communities designed to make pre-k -> 12 schools walkable. Great food, amazing supply chains (the stuff you find at grocery stores here can be mind blowing), and well maintained infrastructure. We are positive sum water, when you build her…

Phoenix is robbing Peter to pay Paul with regards to water. Phoenix survives thanks to extreme planning measures and water diversion from the Colorado river, but that’s not going to be tenable in the next 30 yrs. There is almost no well or groundwater, and before the constant diversion of water, the city of a Phoenix consumed some order of magnitude more water than they were able to restore.

My point is, anyone who lives in an overpopulated desert and says “we don’t have a water problem” should be taken with a grain of salt.

Re: Moving to Texas

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Post by dillondoyle »

tomatofarmer wrote: post #50
techsupporter wrote: post #30

I was born in Texas and lived the first part of my adult life there. All of my family still lives there. But many years ago, I decamped for Seattle (before the tech boom really got started here) and, bluntly, I'm never going back. I wish everyone who is moving to Texas the best of luck and truly hope you succeed. But if you think moving to Dallas or Austin or Houston and putting a Beto sign on your front window is an…

Robert O'Rourke is a billionaire who already scammed El Paso. Texas is too smart for him, even though he's backed by NYC donors and Hollywood.

Source?

He released 10 years of tax returns [1], showing modestly high income. His disclosures in Congress - which he would be breaking the law if he lied about, e.g. Trump potential fraud - show higher net with real estate holdings. [2] Still probably 8 digitals starting with a $1 or less.

There are sources that says his father in law is worth $500mm. If you think the father in law will give the couple all his net worth that would put in maybe half way there generously based on that info. But that still doesn't compute with what you said even if misleading. [3] [4]

[1] https://www.texastribune.org/2019/04/15/texas-beto-orourke-2... [2] https://www.opensecrets.org/personal-finances/net-worth?cid=... [3] https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/mar/14/club-growt... [4] https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2018/11/04/is...

Re: Moving to Texas

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Post by dang »

massysett wrote: post #73
dang wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't pick the most provocative thing in an article and then paste it into the thread to complain about it. That seeds discussion with precisely the worst, most flammable and superficial points. Instead, we (all) need to train ourselves to (a) leave provocations where we encounter them and (b) focus on the genuinely interesting things. Then we have a chance at contributing to a good, interesting forum. https:/…

OK, so this is an honest question - if I didn't know you're a mod, I would argue with you instead. Should I just flag these kinds of posts then, or just completely ignore them? Because honestly, articles like this are just junk. The headline of the article and its entire orientation is around a ridiculous premise. It's not like this was a single provocative thing in the article with the rest of it being filled with i…

Correct—if there's nothing that gratifies intellectual curiosity in an article, then it's off topic for HN and should be flagged.

On the other hand, if there's a mixture, then you/all of us should focus on what does gratify curiosity and leave the nasty bits and flamey bits where you find them. That takes some restraint, of course, which none of us is used to on the internet, but it's the way to have the forum we all actually want HN to be. Nobody wants scorched earth—that's the ultimate boring endstate. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

More here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29363505

Re: Moving to Texas

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Post by tomatofarmer »

dillondoyle wrote: post #76
tomatofarmer wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Robert O'Rourke is a billionaire who already scammed El Paso. Texas is too smart for him, even though he's backed by NYC donors and Hollywood.

Source? He released 10 years of tax returns [1], showing modestly high income. His disclosures in Congress - which he would be breaking the law if he lied about, e.g. Trump potential fraud - show higher net with real estate holdings. [2] Still probably 8 digitals starting with a $1 or less. There are sources that says his father in law is worth $500mm. If you think the father in law will give the couple all his net w…

My source is the 2018 senate election.

Robert was defeated despite overwhelming publicity from out of state sources, and being backed by a father in law that 'conservatively' has a 500mm net worth (as of 2 years ago, during which time the S&P 500 has nearly doubled).

Texas was too smart for him.

Re: Moving to Texas

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Post by NikolaNovak »

troupe wrote: post #64
NikolaNovak wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

*progressive/liberal woman. To be fair, I believe Conservatives of female persuasion would find it a reasonably comfortable place (I may disagree with that perspective, but we should ignore / pretend it doesn't exist at out peril. 76mil votes for Trump 2020 were not all cast by males. On more personal / closer to home note, a number of my exes would agree with Texas laws more than their/our own Ontario laws and cultu…

As someone who routinely crosses state lines, I can't imagine what type of situation would make the need to get an abortion such a common occurrence that it would be the sole factor in deciding what state you'd live in.

That's a valid point on its own, however, I imagine for many, (rightly or wrongly) perceived stance of a state or institution toward abortion is a summarized proxy for stance toward women's rights. In other words, there's an assumed correlation that a place that so vehemently, consistently tries so darn tootin' hard to limit abortion rights, may have other similar perspectives vis-a-vis women's rights, if not minority rights in general.
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