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Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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Re: Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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Does it? Early covid we didn't even have enough PPE. Countries that produced PPE had it.

Yes, but why? Let me answer, because slave labor is cheaper.

not cheaper than robot labour

Re: Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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Criming USian overlords typically don't have to suffer the indignity of a conviction.

Yeah, the only difference here is that these people are never charged or convicted. "Just a smart businessman"

And on the rare occasions that they do, it's usually just a fine, of the companies money.

Re: Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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it makes perfect sense to have a factory right on your most critical client, even leaving the typically american grandiose fantasies of apocalyptic destruction aside. It even nets them a cool 3 billion dollars to do so, which I'm fairly sure is very welcome given Samsung's history of reinvesting this kinds of money for political gain. I do wonder why this isn't more common though, pretty much every gigantic company a…

When it is an incredibly expensive factory, requiring an incredible level of technical expertise to operate, and air freight from anywhere on earth to your biggest client is scarcely a rounding error in the price of the finished products - then NO, it makes no sense to put the factory next to the client.

Re: Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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When I was a kid I was bullied by the kids calling me crazy, because of my overly imaginative approach to reality. Fast forward a lot of years later i look at reality and find out that the bullies had no clue at all. The real world is far more bizarre than any of the imaginary worlds I created in my mind during childhood

You really think your imagination is the reason you got bullied?

Isn’t there a douchebag contest you can compete in somewhere..? Away from here preferably?

Re: Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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Ok, this article quietly gets fucking wild halfway through. >> Samsung spent years evaluating where to build the new fab, courting multiple locations and pitting them against each other for better incentives. But the ultimate decision came down to Samsung Group's leader Jay Y. Lee, who was granted early parole in August expressly to speed up crucial business decisions like the Texas chip fab. Accounting for between 1…

> Lee gave Choi money and horses in an effort to note to the cryptokids: at least with using horses as currency you can pet them and ride them and race them for prizes!

BRB, buying an NFT horse

Re: Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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Ok, this article quietly gets fucking wild halfway through. >> Samsung spent years evaluating where to build the new fab, courting multiple locations and pitting them against each other for better incentives. But the ultimate decision came down to Samsung Group's leader Jay Y. Lee, who was granted early parole in August expressly to speed up crucial business decisions like the Texas chip fab. Accounting for between 1…

That cult leader is a crazy story on its own. She killed a presidential nominee in a ritual

Definitely check it out

Oh and she used to be a popstar too

Re: Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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So everyone is on the "Let's build a Fab in the USA" train, will that eventually bring down the chip production costs? (not an expert in the field, so asking naively)

This is more about national security and business continuity than cost. Costs matter most when things are running smoothly. However, COVID has taught us a hard lesson. When SHTF, you better have a back up plan. Making money on IP alone while someone else handles all of the manufacturing and integration work looks great on a spreadsheet. Then some state actor cuts off the supply chain (or a virus) and your genius MBAs…

> With any luck, COVID (and tarrifs) has transformed business for the future.

Until we're far enough removed from the situation, everything is comfortable again, and the MBAs start saying "you know, if we just offshored fabrication..."

Re: Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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So everyone is on the "Let's build a Fab in the USA" train, will that eventually bring down the chip production costs? (not an expert in the field, so asking naively)

This is about the war with china. Europe: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/tech-is-make-or-break-i... Germany: https://www.infineon.com/cms/en/about-infineon/press/press-r... Korea: https://fortune.com/2021/05/13/south-korea-chip-semiconducto... Japan: https://www.aroged.com/2021/11/23/japan-has-allocated-5-2-bi... Non-OP USA: https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/09/us-chip-production-52b/ Key players are expecting an all…

OK, a lot to unpack.

Lots of militaries prepared for conflict. OK.

What do the pentagon UFO releases have to do with war with China? You say it's completely related, would you elaborate?

And a peasant revolt in China? That's a big statement and I'd like to know more about your reasoning.

Re: Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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I worked at Samsung Austin Semiconductor for ten years as a software engineer. AMA. I very much love the people I worked with at SAS. It was one of the best experiences of my life and I'm very happy to see them expand like this. Wayne at Louie Mueller's BBQ had better add a few more pits, they're about to get a lot busier!

How do you get into chipmaking, really? Is it a Physics degree, or is it a Computer Science degree with just lots of on-the-job training?
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