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Thank you for being flawed enough that you failed to stop Android taking over the phone market, and thereby preventing the world from entering a technology dark ages where hardware and software ecosystems are locked down and controlled by huge corporations.

On the other hand, iPhone OS (or how was it called in early days) was a clear inspiration for Android. You cannot deny Apple basically invented many phone UI metaphors, that were directly copied (and I don't mean it in negative sense) into Android UI. And to your other point... closed nature has its upsides too. Look at gaming consoles, they work quite well despite being crazy controlled. And Apple never wanted to do…

I totally acknowledge that the iPhone provided a huge leap forward, and that it inspired / altered the direction android took - I'm very grateful for it.

It is precisely because it was so good that it was such a threat to the technology landscape. We could easily have descended into a windows like era of domination by one company, but this time with the company having complete control over every layer - hardware, software, even content. However we didn't, partly thanks to strategic mistakes that Jobs made (we could have a whole discussion about what those were but I think it would be counterproductive wrt this thread).

I think almost like a natural ecosystem the software world needs both open and closed systems in balance. Each one moves us forward in different ways at different times. It is when they get out of balance that we get stuck (the "windows" era being a good example).

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On the other hand, iPhone OS (or how was it called in early days) was a clear inspiration for Android. You cannot deny Apple basically invented many phone UI metaphors, that were directly copied (and I don't mean it in negative sense) into Android UI. And to your other point... closed nature has its upsides too. Look at gaming consoles, they work quite well despite being crazy controlled. And Apple never wanted to do…

I'm not sure about that. The iPhone UI is definitely a good piece of engineering, and it's certainly more polished than what came before, but I don't think it invented anything novel.

UI is something that is engineered? I'd hate to live on the planet you live on, buddy.

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That is extremely debatable.

which part is debatable ?

If you want to think Woz and Bill Gates did "more" than Steve Jobs, then you are entitled to that view. I don't agree, but I don't care enough to argue my point.

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I'm not sure about that. The iPhone UI is definitely a good piece of engineering, and it's certainly more polished than what came before, but I don't think it invented anything novel.

UI is something that is engineered? I'd hate to live on the planet you live on, buddy.

Engineered -- planned with a purpose, designed, put together in order to accomplish a goal. In what world is a UI not engineered?
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