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Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Post by outsidetheparty »

ravenstine wrote: post #59
davidbarker wrote: post #11

That's the first time I've heard DHTML to mean "distributed HTML" — I always knew it to mean "dynamic HTML".

Am I the only one who found the term DHTML to be one of the most useless initialisms that came from web development? I remember seeing "DHTML" still being thrown around as late as 2005, but knowing that I could refer to the components of a webpage as "DHTML" never seemed to have any sort of utility. I never cared that I could refer to the markup as being dynamic . Big deal. What scripts and applets could I add to mak…

And HTML begat DHTML and DHTML begat XHTML and in woe and SOAP calls HTML5 was born

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Post by webmobdev »

RedShift1 wrote: post #33

> The absolute first thing we did with CSS was use it to stop underlining links. I don't know how this trend came to be. I fought it for as long as I could, links are underlined and when you hovered them the underline would go away to make it extra clear this is an interactive element. I considered it a staple of good design. Why did we remove the underline?

That and the different colour for "visited" links. This site is a good example where a different colour for a link you've clicked would be really useful - but it's strangely lacking. Every time I click a link on HN to read an article, and come back to HN to read the comments discussing said article, I have to scan the whole HN page again to find the link. It's frustrating.

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Post by noyesno »

I would add:

  - messing with the mouse  pointer (and adding animated graphics following it), 
  - changing the whole browser’s window’s “chrome” to custom graphics (as in: custom minimize/maximize/close buttons and the edge graphics of the floating window)
  - Maybe throwing full-screen to maximize the impact.

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Post by marcodiego »

One thing a miss: a simple, easy to use, wysiwyg html editor. Also, these days it also would have to be open source. So, my only options look like bluegriffon, whose license/monetization I don't like, or Mozilla Composer (actually seamonkey), which seems basically abandoned in terms of features and maintenance seem to only make it compile and run on modern system.

Some people may suggest a CMS, but I don't want a CMS. I just want a simple way to create a personal page. What alternative still remains?

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Post by ModernMech »

DerekBickerton wrote: post #65

1x1 pixel GIFs are still in use on places like Amazon where the 1x1 GIF image is overlayed on top of another (larger) image. It's to stop people right-clicking and saving the larger image to their device (because copyright). Anyways I can just press F12 and 'steal' the image from devtools, so it's not hard to overcome.

Some sites that are more savvy now prevent you from getting into dev tools altogether. That and Google looking to make the whole web canvas is a disturbing trend.

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Post by Ozzie_osman »

The awesome thing about that period was how we learned. You'd be on a web page, see something funky (positioning, rounded corners, etc) and be like "how the heck did they do that?".

Then you do the ol' "View Source" and now that technique is in your toolkit. In fact you'd prob head right over to your geocities site and try it out right away.

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Post by p2p_astroturf »

Ozzie_osman wrote: post #79

The awesome thing about that period was how we learned. You'd be on a web page, see something funky (positioning, rounded corners, etc) and be like "how the heck did they do that?". Then you do the ol' "View Source" and now that technique is in your toolkit. In fact you'd prob head right over to your geocities site and try it out right away.

AKA the web was always a bunch of cargo cult, NIH about the most basic computer programming tasks, etc.
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