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Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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While this is a trend across the board since the pandemic, for Facebook it is particularly troublesome because it's deeper rooted than at other companies. On an almost daily basis it is becoming more and more public knowledge that Facebook is in more legal trouble than it can handle and that the company no longer has much good standing in society (which, for a "social" media company, is a bit of a problem). Young peo…

They’ve certainly faced an onslaught from the press, which has decided they are Philip Morris 2.0. It’s very unclear if that is going to translate into actual legal trouble. If I was at FB I’d be more concerned with how young people are rejecting it.

Facebook's legal troubles are certainly not imaginary. They are actual, they are ongoing, they are overwhelming and there's more and more coming out all the time. Zuck and Thiel themselves are named as defendents on multiple very serious lawsuits which money alone could not spare them from (and not for lack of trying - untold billions have been spent in the past 5 years to ensure Zuck's name didn't show up on lawsuits. Until it did.)

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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post #18

While this is a trend across the board since the pandemic, for Facebook it is particularly troublesome because it's deeper rooted than at other companies. On an almost daily basis it is becoming more and more public knowledge that Facebook is in more legal trouble than it can handle and that the company no longer has much good standing in society (which, for a "social" media company, is a bit of a problem). Young peo…

I don't think the root problem is any one person, given that Twitter is even more destructive to society. It's the users, it's the incentives of the platforms, it's bad actors. There's low trust, a breakdown of institutions, a raging culture war. It's complicated.

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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There is no such thing as Facebook employees. * Why the downvotes?

Because to the general population there clearly is such a thing. The changing of the parent company name is a detail that most people just don’t care about. And I believe Facebook remains a subsidiary of the new parent company that is writing its own separate paychecks.

Finally, comments such as these don’t really add any value to the discussion.

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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I have to wonder if job satisfaction at Facebook has a very binomial distribution. This is pretty much true at any large corp, where there can be a ton of variation between teams, but from the outside looking in it seems that Facebook basically has a dichotomy: On one hand you have teams working on interesting and industry-leading tech, like React, GraphQL, Oculus, etc. But on the other you have legions of people wor…

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Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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I have to wonder if job satisfaction at Facebook has a very binomial distribution. This is pretty much true at any large corp, where there can be a ton of variation between teams, but from the outside looking in it seems that Facebook basically has a dichotomy: On one hand you have teams working on interesting and industry-leading tech, like React, GraphQL, Oculus, etc. But on the other you have legions of people wor…

I think it depends on the person. I have worked on "fun" tech at startups but ended up coming back to my role as a cog in Google's money printing machine (ad plumbing AND content moderation in fact!) The retention in my group is actually pretty great; it's trivial to have tremendous impact so career progression is fairly easy, and work-life balance is very reasonable. Personally I'm more motivated by this sort of environment and the ability to (slowly) make improvements that affect millions of companies and billions of people, than I am by hacking on greenfield tech that may or may not see users. But I know plenty of people who feel the opposite (as you allude to), and this sort of role wouldn't be a great fit for them.

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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> Out of more than 1,100 votes, the person was urged to take the Netflix job, where he said he was being offered $580,000 a year. Are these real salaries? How??

I know people getting packages well in excess of that. The difference between the bottom and top of software job pay packages is starting to resemble athletes or actors.

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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post #71

> Out of more than 1,100 votes, the person was urged to take the Netflix job, where he said he was being offered $580,000 a year. Are these real salaries? How??

Please, not this again. Just go to levels.fyi and see for yourself.

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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I have to wonder if job satisfaction at Facebook has a very binomial distribution. This is pretty much true at any large corp, where there can be a ton of variation between teams, but from the outside looking in it seems that Facebook basically has a dichotomy: On one hand you have teams working on interesting and industry-leading tech, like React, GraphQL, Oculus, etc. But on the other you have legions of people wor…

> But on the other you have legions of people working to make the money machine printing, and I've got to think most of that work sucks: the nitty-gritty of keeping the site up, content moderation teams, all the ad plumbing.

From technical point of view, things like keeping such a huge site up, or building ads backend can be very rewarding for infrastructure minded folks.

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google keeps a large suite of in-house built, enormously useful products alive and still manages to move them forward incrementally. FB has done nothing useful for me since I signed up in 2004. Given that, why would I care if they made a video about the incredible things they will do in the future? If I'm to believe they will deliver, shouldn't they have a track record by now? And Google has led in AI for the past de…

> FB has done nothing useful for me since I signed up in 2004. Given that, why would I care if they made a video about the incredible things they will do in the future? Have you used a few VR devices over the last decade, including the last Quest?

No. I can't imagine putting on anything that would exacerbate my neck strain. Screen, stay where you are and I'll decide what angle to look at you from.

Maybe when they scale it down to the size and heft of swimming goggles.

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