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Re: Goodbye, MIT

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think to achieve equal opportunity it makes sense to make education equal. But how to make education equal? Instead of setting up quotas maybe we should simply switch teachers. Let the teachers rotate among schools so that every kid gets a random selection of teachers and every teacher gets a random selection of students. At the same time, should also try to minimize the number of private schools, either through le…

>I think to achieve equal opportunity it makes sense to make education equal. It's doable. Make it online and free. The HTTP protocol doesn't care about your social background. I absolutely can't understand why would any country require its citizens to pay for education in state-funded schools and universities. Educated people are the best and the biggest national asset. Anything that creates a barrier (monetary or n…

Thesis: We are 20 years behind where we should be in online university education, and the only reason we are where we are now is a pandemic.

The universities were at the bleeding edge of new networked IT solutions even into the 1980s. As low-cost portable devices became available that could display high-quality real-time video on demand, it was clear that such a solution would soon be faster, cheaper and better than passively sitting in a lecture hall. And little, if anything, happened on the University side for years and years.

The occasional academician might try something, but it was spotty at best. A few years ago, there were professors who were still banning laptops from lecture rooms. Faculty Senates stuck their collective heads in the sand. They couldn’t figure out a business case where they could make money in a video future, so they ignored it. Meanwhile, students got a slower, worse, more expensive education than they could and should have.

We should be in the third or fourth generation of online university courses by now. Professionally produced and vetted lectures, hyperlinks to past and supplemental materials synced to video, diverse actors presenting material that engage various population of students more effectively. Objective measures of student learning improvements to support process quality improvements. From service courses through grad seminars. The best courses offered to not one university, but all universities (potentially). Simulators of lab equipments so students get training on the newest equipment, and aren’t learning outdated inefficient lab practices. Online networking with mentors in the real world. Effective controls on cheating on exams. These all should be mature, fully deployed technologies by now. And they aren’t.

That is the mortal sin of Higher Education in the 21st Century. They just didn’t care. I consider a lot of the political turmoil on campuses as just a smokescreen by academic leadership to distract the digital native students from asking the inconvenient questions of why is education so…clunky.

Rant mode off.

Re: Goodbye, MIT

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All of these replies seem to co-mingle the concepts of equal opportunity and equal outcome. The foundation of a free society is personal responsibility. Personal outcomes in such a system are pretty much guaranteed not to be the same (equal), since different people will use their freedom in different ways. Sucks for kids of irresponsible parents, who truly don't have self-autonomy. But then again, our society is full…

Exactly. Outside of the state taking away children from their parents at birth and raising them there will never truly be equal opportunity. Even then there are genetic differences which give some more opportunity than others: I got blessed by flat ass feet and bad joints from my parents. I will never be able to be an athlete and will always be somewhat limited in the physical endeavours I can persue. Being tall and…

> Outside of the state taking away children from their parents at birth and raising them...

Don't give them any ideas!

Re: Goodbye, MIT

#73
post #69

How long can a country endure if it continues to cripple learning, muzzle truth and persecute some of its most talented and capable individuals in the name of childish, incoherent ideology? Not long. The stage of history doesn't care how many followers you have on Twitter, or how many people's lives you can destroy in the name of your religion masquerading as science. In the coming years, the US MUST LEAD. It must sh…

Society is a pendulum. Give it time. We move in decades.

We're rapidly running out of time.

Re: Goodbye, MIT

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We’re seemingly six months away from any and all diversity movements being dismissed as anti-white propaganda. It seems high time for the NAACP/BLM/ACLU to begin to walk back their extremist rhetoric before they’re deemed terrorist groups like they themselves have deemed so many other groups before.

They ARE anti-white propaganda. This isn't hyperbole, it's simply descriptive of the facts. Maybe they weren't at some point, but a new crop has taken over the reigns, and pretty much all of those groups have embraced wokeness, intersectionality, "white man bad" etc. Hell, forget "diversity groups": we live in world where Google deliberately tampers with Image Search results to downplay white people and promote liter…

Sooner or later? You don't think the past 4-5 years, particularly the Trump presidency, isn't part of that backlash? It's only going to escalate.

Re: Goodbye, MIT

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I have never understood why there is an expectation to treat everyone equally when people are very unequal, from their birth circumstances, which obviously they can't control, to their behavior as adults, which people do have control over.

People don't treat me like Michael Jordon because, guess what? I cannot do the things he does. It would be rather silly for me to get all in a huff because I don't get the treatment that celebrities get.

Another example: a single teenage girl has a baby when she's 15 and two married computer engineers have a baby. Does anyone really expect that those two kids will have equal opportunities? Is it our society's job to ensure that they do? Should we limit one kid's opportunities if society can't provide them to the other kid too?

It sucks that some kids are born into less advantageous circumstances, but it's the way the world works. Sometimes it's because parents make bad decisions, sometimes social systems are unfair, sometimes it's neither; luck of the draw.

It's funny to me that everyone seems to think diversity is a good thing, yet at the same time want everyone to be the same.

Re: Goodbye, MIT

#77
post #54

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You described a bunch of failings of the school and then said: > The best school in the world can't 'fix' that. I find that puzzling. A good school will not have most of those problems. Doing well when the kids coming in is hard but doable.

Yeah no ... I described failings in the students - or rather, that wouldn't say 'failings' so much as 'contextually, utterly not prepared, willing or able in any way'. "A good school will not have most of those problems." Because a 'good school' is full of conscientious and prepared students, raised by conscientious and prepared parents with jobs and stability. There is nothing a 'decent group of well meaning teacher…

> even the students who might try are bullied, and there are zero role models in the lives of students

Some schools allowed students to beat these odds and decide to give themselves a chance by being in an environment where they could succeed academically. Lowell was such a school here in SF [0]. Sadly, it became a target of a certain crowd and has now switched to a "lottery" system to admit, so the bullies have as much chances of getting in as the victims. [1]

[0] https://youtu.be/DVMmT9k5rYk

[1] https://www.sfgate.com/education/article/sf-school-lottery-L...

Re: Goodbye, MIT

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When I was in college Louis Farrakhan [1] came to speak. There was a great debate if he should come (state school/funds and a pretty high speaking fee.)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Farrakhan

He spoke, huge protest outside (I covered the protests for the college paper) As a suburban white kid i learned a lot about things I wasn’t exposed to. I listened to a recording of him speaking a while I processes the pictures in the dark room. His oratory was mesmerizing.

Universities should be places where interesting opinions are shared and debated. If the person is relevant and not crazy they should be heard. Let the protests happen or ask them questions.

As for the other complaint, big companies have sexual harassment and diversity training. Probably not a terrible idea, just get everyone on the same page and it’s also an big time institutional protective move (CYA).

All these students got into MIT so they’re already doing pretty pretty good..

I work at a university so I might be a bit biased, but they’re not terrible places to donate to. My group shares all its science data with the community and does a lot of stuff that’s pretty non-commercial. I had someone in pharma tell me they’re always grabbing all the public data..

Re: Goodbye, MIT

#79
> Third, intellectual ability and achievement are the principal requirements for admission as a student or faculty member to any university.

We know from the lawsuit against Harvard brought by Asian applicants that the principle requirements for admission are having a parent alumni or donor, since discovery in that case revealed that the majority of all admissions were legacies. I don't think the quoted suggestion has ever existed.

Selective universities who wish to rebuke any assumed nefarious intent behind their admission policies and procedures are welcome to publish data showing us that the bulk of their admissions are not legacy admissions. Until then, I say Harvard describes them all.

After all, the new norm is that accusation denotes guilt, right?

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