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This is such a far departure from where I was hoping the Internet would look like growing up. Makes me sad political borders are now viewed as a feature.

It's a big feature for users who value freedom of speech. It's laughable that a guy from the EU doesn't get it - their freedom of speech is shit.

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Re: Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)

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post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is such a far departure from where I was hoping the Internet would look like growing up. Makes me sad political borders are now viewed as a feature.

It's a big feature for users who value freedom of speech. It's laughable that a guy from the EU doesn't get it - their freedom of speech is shit.

This is nothing to do with freedom of speech; the issue is differing laws on data privacy between the EU and US (and repeated failure of Safe Harbour and other regulatory attempts to paper over the cracks).

Re: Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)

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I like that tweet:

>The CLOUD Act applies to all electronic communication service or remote computing service providers that operate in the U.S, whether those providers are established in the United States or another country.

Bravo Hetzner, no chance for servers with private data (for example European customers) on it anymore, Exoscale it will be then in the future.

Re: Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)

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Any info on what DC they use? So far they've run everything themselves which made them slower to expand but was much cheaper to run. If they now use other DC providers it would explain why they only offer the higher margin cloud servers there. But would be curious if anyone knows where the data center is physically located. With their other ones they're also quite open about it so I was surprised they didn't mention…

Right now we're not offering any dedicated servers (as I wrote on another comment). That might change some time in the future depending on how well things go here. But I can't give a clear answer about whether or not we will introduce dedicated root servers, or an ETA. --Katie, Marketing, Hetzner Online

Re: Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)

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post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is such a far departure from where I was hoping the Internet would look like growing up. Makes me sad political borders are now viewed as a feature.

It's a big feature for users who value freedom of speech. It's laughable that a guy from the EU doesn't get it - their freedom of speech is shit.

> It's a big feature for users who value freedom of speech.

That would be Iceland then, NOT the US.

Re: Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)

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Had the same issue trying to open an IBM cloud account recently. After submitting my CC info the system told me to get in touch via email, and after contacting them they wanted two official documents (Driver’s License and Passport) to be submitted via email. Big nope from me.

Hetzner will actually refuse your order after you submit your documents with no valid reasons whatsoever. At a point, you just give up and ask your EU co-workers to spin up dedicated servers for you.

We do not publish the specific reasons why we reject orders. If we did this for every customer, it would be really easy to create a fake account. Potential abusers would quickly learn what to avoid. So we don't publish this information to anyone. We understand that that seems harsh. That's not what we intend. We just want to prevent abuse. --Katie

Re: Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)

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How is Tailscale, just another VPN provider, comparable to Hetzner and Starlink? I smell covert advertisement…

I’d put myself in the camp of zealous Tailscale customers. I’ve used wireguard for years and Tailscale solved every single complaint I had about Wireguard. Their ACL management could use a lot of polish but moving to them and paying for the service was the easiest decision to make after how well it worked. And the product has worked flawlessly for us. Not a paid advertisement. Just someone who never ever thinks about…

>I’ve used wireguard for years

Really for years?

Re: Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)

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Cloud product site has been updated: https://www.hetzner.com/cloud

I changed my country on that page to US but all the prices still seem to be in euros? It would be great if they let me see more detail about the instance types without having to sign up for an account. I'm not sure if I want to try it out, and I'm lazy, so I probably just won't now.

Yes, prices are still in euros. Please see: https://docs.hetzner.com/cloud/general/locations/#what-about... I understand about being a bit lazy when it comes to trying a new company. However, if you change your mind any you become more interested, you can check around and see if you can find anyone with a referral code. (We have a referral program: https://docs.hetzner.com/cloud/general/faq/#is-there-a-refer... ) --Katie, Marketing, Hetzner Online

Re: Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)

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How is Tailscale, just another VPN provider, comparable to Hetzner and Starlink? I smell covert advertisement…

I’d put myself in the camp of zealous Tailscale customers. I’ve used wireguard for years and Tailscale solved every single complaint I had about Wireguard. Their ACL management could use a lot of polish but moving to them and paying for the service was the easiest decision to make after how well it worked. And the product has worked flawlessly for us. Not a paid advertisement. Just someone who never ever thinks about…

Same, I would invest in Tailscale if I could.
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