A man who takes 6 months of paternity is a loser – Palantir founder Joe Lonsdale • Hacker News Board

Re: A man who takes 6 months of paternity is a loser – Palantir founder Joe Lonsdale

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Post by refurb » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 1:23 PM UTC

MisterBastahrd wrote: post #61

refurb wrote: post #35

The outrage cycle is strong with this one. Is this what social media amplifies? Some dude who makes a statement that is clearly atypical gets hyper focused on while internet “pundits” scream at each other about it? It’s clearly an extreme statement, made with the perfect intent to stoke outrage, that gets amplified, then Fortune writes an article and it gets linked on HN. Whatever happens to “wow that’s a dumb statem…

The person who made the statement isn't just some random person. He's someone who is in charge of a company that has employees and an HR department. It's a disqualifying statement as a leader.

Strongly disagree that because someone is rich or has a fancy title that their opinion matters.

I mean look at the occasional bizarre tweets from Elon Musk.

It’s ok to look at a tweet and say “thats fucking stupid” and move on.

Re: A man who takes 6 months of paternity is a loser – Palantir founder Joe Lonsdale

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Post by brodouevencode » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 2:12 PM UTC

JKCalhoun wrote: post #20

brodouevencode wrote: post #11

The rhetoric is harsh, but I can sympathize with him. I would rather my children see how hard I work (it never went unnoticed), and now that they are older I happily include them in on what I do. But those early years should be dedicated to learning how to be social and nice - things women are better at than men on average. Traditionally men have been the workers, women have been the caregivers. This model has worked…

We are talking about the first 6 months (I don't think your 6 month old will appreciate how much you were working that first 6 months). I'm no history major but I am pretty sure woman have been as much the workers as men (think the gather component of hunter/gatherer).

This was not a comment on who is or could be better workers. I was simply pointing out what has traditionally worked, and that it's been pretty successful. Also I think your boxing this in to the context of the article by referring to the first six months (and that's fair to do) but I wasn't (I should have made myself more clear).

Re: A man who takes 6 months of paternity is a loser – Palantir founder Joe Lonsdale

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Post by 999900000999 » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 5:29 PM UTC

llampx wrote: post #69

999900000999 wrote: post #38

Another way to look at this is anyone who can take that much leave is absolutely privilege compared to typical working class people. Back when I was working minimum wage or near minimum wage it was rare to even see women take more than a month off. Many new fathers would only take one or two days. So at least with my working class background this is a couple of privileged people, from an extremely privileged class co…

It is also a privilege to have a roof over your head and running water. There are billions of people who don't have those things. I don't see how such ultra-woke comments add to the discussion.

All I'm saying is for most people taking 6 months off is a pipe dream. It's almost insulting for them to even have this argument. These are ultra billionaires who if they wanted to could just stop working to focus on being a parent. None of us normal people can do that