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Facebook removed the news feed algorithm in an experiment

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Re: Facebook removed the news feed algorithm in an experiment

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There used to be a secret url param to only show friends posts, no pages or groups. It was heavenly.

FBPurity is a browser plugin that lets you do those things.

Would want something that works on my phone and not having to deal with the mobile browser. I would say a great majority of Facebook usage is via phone and via the official Facebook app.

Re: Facebook removed the news feed algorithm in an experiment

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When people argue against the 'news feed algorithm' they mean anything other than a reverse chronological feed of posts from the people they follow. status updates, and interactions between people/pages you both follow. This article mentions that they turned the news feed off but people were still hiding posts from pages they don't follow, which friends had commented on. These shouldn't appear in a news feed that is…

FBPurity is a browser plugin that lets you decide what to see on FB. You can decide to only see what friends post and not what they like, share, or comment on, etc.

Wow. Comparing with this addon and without is pretty jarring. I might actually start using the newsfeed again with this addon.

Holy cow do FB just shove a bunch of shit into the feed.

Re: Facebook removed the news feed algorithm in an experiment

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When people argue against the 'news feed algorithm' they mean anything other than a reverse chronological feed of posts from the people they follow. status updates, and interactions between people/pages you both follow. This article mentions that they turned the news feed off but people were still hiding posts from pages they don't follow, which friends had commented on. These shouldn't appear in a news feed that is…

100% agree. In addition, look at their metrics. When it comes to "meaningful social interaction", calling Uncle Joey a stupid ass because he posted another semi-racist Obama meme is the same as telling Cousin Jane you like her baby pics.

I should HOPE "meaningful social interactions" go down with a reverse-chron, friends-only feed.

Re: Facebook removed the news feed algorithm in an experiment

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Not all automated curation is built equal and boiling it down to just one thing really confuses things. I absolutely adore YouTube's automated curation since the primary goal there is just to steer me to things I'll find interesting - the ads are present on all content and so YT just wants to keep me on the platform for as long as possible. When it comes to Facebook it always feels like I'm being steered towards topi…

YT's curation keeps trying to shunt me off into neoconservative conspiracy theory videos, which I never click on, but occasionally auto play if I've left the window in the background. About all I can figure I've done is watch some videos about military-themed multiplayer video games. I don't actually play these games, but sometimes the commentary is funny. Facebook kept trying to sell me an Oculus Quest weeks after I…

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Re: Facebook removed the news feed algorithm in an experiment

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Have a chronological time series newsfeed only from friends. Once you have caught up show the recommended / algo posts. + Facebook should allow you to go filter and show posts using a calendar. Like all post from X date to Y date, from this location / friends. It will actually improve usage. Miss the old photo sharing days.

The last year or so I was on Facebook I had basically hidden or otherwise removed anything that wasn't posted by a friend directly. It would take me around five minutes or less to scroll through everything once a week.

The problem is that if Facebook implemented this site wide engagement would drop dramatically. No one really posts to Facebook anymore, people love it when you do, because it's actually kinda novel.

Re: Facebook removed the news feed algorithm in an experiment

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For the record, the turning point was 2016, when basically every single sleeper cell “friend” was activated by mass agitprop, leading to a frenzy of political activity, and in the process suffocating everything else valuable of human attention.

Yeah, and you could see it coming. I remember joking pre-2016 about the upcoming election, wondering how many of my friends would start unfriending each other. I had no idea how big a change was actually coming. I wonder why it didn't happen in 2012. I remember ACA arguments on Facebook but while they were contentious, they were generally value-driven and not based off of batshit lies.

> I wonder why it didn't happen in 2012. I remember ACA arguments on Facebook but while they were contentious, they were generally value-driven and not based off of batshit lies

Both candidates in 2012 went out of their way to maintain civility to each other publicly. I think when a candidate treats their opponent with respect, the followers tend to follow mostly in suit, but if they don't, it kind of just opens the floodgates, and once that happens, there's no going back.

Re: Facebook removed the news feed algorithm in an experiment

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Putting users into echo chambers is not narrative control? They could have made the algorithm so it showed users brand new different material, or opposing material, or more details, or related material from friends instead of corporations, or from people geographically nearby, or chronological, or let users find their own material and/or build their own feeds. Instead of any of that they show them similar material, l…

But people don't like new material. The top comment mentions people hiding posts from pages they don't follow - alternatively, that's called showing brand new content you haven't seen before. Opposing material suggests a binary, sure that makes some sense in a US centric political spectrum, but what's the opposing viewpoint to my friends photo from hiking last weekend? Geographically nearby could mean my neighbor 5 d…

> Chronological feeds are how you end up with news teams spamming posts every three minutes

They do this anyway.

Re: Facebook removed the news feed algorithm in an experiment

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post #25

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Not all automated curation is built equal and boiling it down to just one thing really confuses things. I absolutely adore YouTube's automated curation since the primary goal there is just to steer me to things I'll find interesting - the ads are present on all content and so YT just wants to keep me on the platform for as long as possible. When it comes to Facebook it always feels like I'm being steered towards topi…

YTs recommendations are infamous for getting people radicalized, into conspiracy theories, and filled with misinformation.

I'm highly skeptical of those claims. This seems mostly like wild claims from legacy media that doesn't want you to watch streaming video.

Yes, I'm familiar with the relevant studies.

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