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Re: reMarkable Connect subscription plans

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Post by AlotOfReading »

burkaman wrote: post #56
slightwinder wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The hardware for the gen 2 is pretty good in my opinion. My 5 year old android-tablet has more ram and cpu than the gen2 remarkable. So I assume they outsourced parts to the cloud simply because it's not running well enough on the tablet itself. > the rest of the system is linux Linux, especially on tablets is very exotic. There is no way to benefit from the big ecosystem on android or iOS. Everything must come fro…

The reMarkable is not supposed to compete with an Android tablet, think of it more like a Kindle you can write on. The hardware is perfect for the target audience and there are very few comparable products, but the software is pretty bare-bones and most people have issues with it.

It's also worth noting that unlike the broader tablet market, eInk readers commonly use Linux. Kindle and Kobo devices are examples.

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Post by nottorp »

So, some people recommended this thing to me for note taking. However, there was VERY aggressive marketing for it on my Facebook. I tend to react to aggressive marketing with an equal and opposite reaction so I don't have one.

And now... they want you to pay a subscription to access your Dropbox ? I'm guessing they spent too much money on marketing so now they need to recoup it somehow.

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Post by chrismorgan »

Fnoord wrote: post #65
COGlory wrote: post #54

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disabling ssh would violate GPL licensing, right?

No, what makes you think that? OpenSSH isn't even GPL.

Excerpt from my reMarkable → settings → Help → Copyrights and licenses → General information:

> The General Public License version 3 and the Lesser General Public License version 3 also requires you as an end-user to be able to access your device to be able to modify the copyrighted software licensed under these licenses running on it.

> To do so, this device acts as an USB ethernet device, and you can connect using the SSH protocol using the username 'root' and the password 'hunter2'.

(Incidentally, “an USB”—are they pronouncing “usb” as one syllable or something?)

So COGlory is actually roughly right. They could disable SSH, but would need to replace it with something at least vaguely similar for GPLv3 and LGPLv3 compliance for other parts of the software.

Re: reMarkable Connect subscription plans

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Post by nottorp »

Uberphallus wrote: post #33
dabedee wrote: post #24

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Pray do tell of those more open (and cheaper) alternative devices?

Not sure it's any open (Kobo devices usually are hackable), but Kobo Elipsa[0] is feature par with Remarkable 2. [0] https://us.kobobooks.com/products/kobo-elipsa

A friend of mine uses an Onyxbook (not sure what model) extensively for note taking and he seems pretty happy with it. Software developer with a bit of math thrown in, to get an idea of what he writes on it.

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Post by stronglikedan »

zwaps wrote: post #66

Man I have been a Remarkable user since the initial crowdfunding, but I feel like they are about to throw it. Many of these features were free up until now. Yes, we get grandfathered in, for now, but you gotta agree to a new TOS which I am sure makes this a time limited offer if they so choose. These niche devices need their community, people who are not only taking a lot of notes, drawing a ton or annotating many pd…

Sounds like they recently hired their first MBA.

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Post by macjohnmcc »

AstroDogCatcher wrote: post #2

This has soured me on reMarkable, and probably means that I won't buy the gen3 device when they get to it - despite me having been a big advocate for them until now. Not everything needs to be a subscription. I don't care about your cloud storage (in fact, I would prefer to just use my own), and the other "features" should be table stakes for something which costs so much to buy in the first place.

I got the e-mail to grandfather me in due to my recent purchase of the second gen device. It was a tough sell for many due to price before a subscription may doom it further.

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Post by dmitrygr »

What an absurdly idiotic thing to do. You can try this when you're WhatsApp or Google, and you have stickiness and network effects, but here? If you have more and more competitors every day (boox, kobo) and no serious moat, it is no time to turn into dicks (subscription for basic features).

I've recommended rM2 widely, and know of > 30 sales reMarkable made due to my recommendations. I will not be recommending it any longer.

Re: reMarkable Connect subscription plans

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Post by dmitrygr »

syshum wrote: post #26
tenpoundhammer wrote: post #3

There 3 Options: 1. Connect: $7.99 per month 2. Connect Lite: $4.99 per month 3. No Plan: but the device costs more I dug in deep to find the prices so others don't have to. Personally, I'm fine with this model a lot of the great features are probably supported by doing compute in the cloud and there are also huge advantages to having storage in the cloud.

Outside of Cloud Storage (which is is not worth $8/mo) and handwritting there is nothing in their services that require cloud.. The storage integration should be on the device, they choose to make it via the cloud service. There is no technical reason they could not have made it work directly on the device. Further their 2 largest competitors in the Space, SuperNote, and Boox all seem to be able to offers these featu…

Handwriting also does not require a cloud. My 2002 Sony Clie TH55 (with Decuma handwriting recognizer) and 2003 WinMo devices (block recognizer) did it just fine on the device, on terrible (~200MHz, < 1.0 IPC) CPUs.

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Post by [deleted] »

throwanem wrote: post #51
AstroDogCatcher wrote: post #13

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I'm in the same boat. I use the rM extensively for meeting notes, but I have never been able to give up on having a paper notebook as well. The problem is mostly the ease of page-flicking; skipping forward and backward on an e-ink device is an O(N) operation, while in a physical book it is O(1). The same problem has basically forced me towards using a Kindle only for fiction where the content is linear - for technica…

Not that I'm going to buy a reMarkable, but I do wonder what kind of organization tools it provides. Being able to tag a given note with arbitrary categories and have the device produce a date-ordered index on any category seems like it would help with this a lot. (I use a similar system in my paper notes, with a topic index mapping to page numbers. A few minutes of grooming a day suffices to keep it up to date, and…

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