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Mastodon: AGPLv3 FOSS social network server

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Re: Mastodon: AGPLv3 FOSS social network server

#71

I really wanted to like it, but it's just so difficult to actually find people and content, considering you can only search for hashtags and all...

We definitely want to improve content/people discovery. One recent addition was the follow suggestions you get when you first sign up. It pulls up the most popular/proactive accounts in your language. Trending tags should also help, but we want to explore more options for discovery and are open to ideas.

Re: Mastodon: AGPLv3 FOSS social network server

#72
post #62

Right after read an article on WAPO about Truth Social likely violating Mastodon's license, I hop on HN and find this as the first post.

To learn more about this: https://twitter.com/VValkyriePub/status/1451035108266233863?...

There's no evidence provided anywhere at all that any of these screenshots are of Trump's new platform.

Re: Mastodon: AGPLv3 FOSS social network server

#73

I really wanted to like it, but it's just so difficult to actually find people and content, considering you can only search for hashtags and all...

Same, most of my friends aren't on Mastodon, many of the content creators I'm interested in aren't either. And trying to explain Mastodon to random non-technical people is frustrating, they don't want to think about the social service, they just want to use it. Having to think about providers and federation and compatibility is too much effort for posting cat photos. So they stay on Facebook.

Re: Mastodon: AGPLv3 FOSS social network server

#74
post #70

I've been trying to set this up for years and it continues to defeat me. Even the Docker method is still fraught. I hope they can dumb it down at some point, or clean up the docker setup. There's a LOT of different frameworks & tooling at play in this ecosystem to debug when things go wrong. But I guess it is close to rocket science.

The go-to managed hosting option is masto.host if you have $7/month and no great urge to run your own.

Thanks, I didn't know this existed.

Re: Mastodon: AGPLv3 FOSS social network server

#76
post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they did update their production code since their last source code release, then you're right, it would be a license violation. I don't know if this is the case. Either way, it is much better to make occasional source code releases than to not release any code at all, when the code is under a copyleft license.

Honest question: There is a lot of talk about Truth Social violating the AGPL license. If it it a work in progress and not yet public, do they need to share their source code, or do they need to share it once they launch?

The FSF has a somewhat relevant answer about this: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.en.html#StolenCopy

It depends on if the accidentally public instance could be considered a trade secret.

Re: Mastodon: AGPLv3 FOSS social network server

#77
post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they did update their production code since their last source code release, then you're right, it would be a license violation. I don't know if this is the case. Either way, it is much better to make occasional source code releases than to not release any code at all, when the code is under a copyleft license.

Honest question: There is a lot of talk about Truth Social violating the AGPL license. If it it a work in progress and not yet public, do they need to share their source code, or do they need to share it once they launch?

If Truth Social is running Mastodon-based code on a server, even if it is a private beta, the source code needs to be made available under AGPLv3 to anyone who can access the service.

> d) Convey the object code by offering access from a designated place (gratis or for a charge), and offer equivalent access to the Corresponding Source in the same way through the same place at no further charge. You need not require recipients to copy the Corresponding Source along with the object code. If the place to copy the object code is a network server, the Corresponding Source may be on a different server (operated by you or a third party) that supports equivalent copying facilities, provided you maintain clear directions next to the object code saying where to find the Corresponding Source. Regardless of what server hosts the Corresponding Source, you remain obligated to ensure that it is available for as long as needed to satisfy these requirements.

https://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.html

Re: Mastodon: AGPLv3 FOSS social network server

#79
People interested in this stuff should check out alternate software as well. Hometown is a fork of mastodon that has a few extra features but one very interesting one in particular: you can post to the local server only, which is an excellent community building feature.

There's also pleroma, which I've run and is pretty great and low on resource requirements. And there are tons of other social UX paradigms like link aggregators and even Peertube which is a tube site server on the same network as mastodon using the same ActivityPub protocol.

I'd love to see people implement novel types of social sites besides functional clones of existing social media, there are some significant architectural and UX differences in a distributed, federated social architecture that can be leveraged to great effect.

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