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Remarkable starts implementing subscription plans for its cloud features

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Re: Remarkable starts implementing subscription plans for its cloud features

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Post by Aeolun »

liendolucas wrote: post #64

Comment aside, I'd love to buy a Remarkable, but I'm not going to do so. The reason is that: "by default remarkable doesn't come with a marker". How can that even be possible? And I'm not sure if it's possible to use something else as a marker. The marker is just 59 euros. Of course I'd also like the cover, such an expensive device without a minimum protection is not a good idea. The cover costs 119 euros. That's a t…

I never considered the cost of the device to be 400 euros. The price is around 600 euros all in. If I ever need to buy seperate accessories I can do so for 120 euro or 60 (for the pen).

Re: Remarkable starts implementing subscription plans for its cloud features

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Post by Aeolun »

I am not happy with this move. Before this step the Remarkable was an easy recommendation, but syncing a few gigabytes of files for every customer that paid you $600 dollars without an extra subscription seems reasonable. Hell, have me pay for the S3 storage I’m using, anything. But to start paying $8 per month just to access basic functionality feels silly to me.

I love the device, but recommending it without the grandfathered benefits feels like a ripoff to me (even if I never use them).

Re: Remarkable starts implementing subscription plans for its cloud features

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Post by thr0w72594 »

nemothekid wrote: post #43
vunTofHueaFFrea wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would you call it?

There is nothing stopping a company from both selling you a subscription and selling your data under a socialist organization of society. It only means the profits of said product would be more evenly distributed.

Capitalism and Socialism aren't the only ways to organize society. The state could force every company that operates within it be beneficial to its citizens.

Re: Remarkable starts implementing subscription plans for its cloud features

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

kadoban wrote: post #9
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #7

This is disappointing. My wife has one and loves it, and I was about to buy one my own. Now I don't know if I want to, knowing I'll get one intentionally crippled in comparison. The price hike on the Marker Plus to incentivize the subscription is a nasty choice too.

It's a great device (for certain use-cases). My advice would be to just avoid the cloud features anyway if you can. If some of them are important to you, and can't be replaced by third-party tools (many can), yeah maybe a different device is better for you. I never even created a cloud account, partly for privacy, partly to avoid crap like this.

It's the double hit though... they're also jacking the Marker Plus price to try to force a subscription.

Re: Remarkable starts implementing subscription plans for its cloud features

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Post by dbbk »

fartcannon wrote: post #16
minimalist wrote: post #10

A lot of comments talk aboue being disappointed and all, but id rather pay for cloud services than have my data sold to merchants and marketeers. Meanwhile, I have syncthing and gocryptfs installed on my remarkable 2 and have blocked all telemetry domains with the hosts file. If i wanted to, I could even disable xochotl completely (however you spell it). This is all good and shows that they respect their customers. W…

What stops them from charging you and selling your data?

What data does it even have to sell? It's basically an etch a sketch.

Re: Remarkable starts implementing subscription plans for its cloud features

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Post by kadoban »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #74
kadoban wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a great device (for certain use-cases). My advice would be to just avoid the cloud features anyway if you can. If some of them are important to you, and can't be replaced by third-party tools (many can), yeah maybe a different device is better for you. I never even created a cloud account, partly for privacy, partly to avoid crap like this.

It's the double hit though... they're also jacking the Marker Plus price to try to force a subscription.

Yeah that's a kick in the pants. Maybe just buy second-hand? Not sure.

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Post by dexterdog »

vunTofHueaFFrea wrote: post #31
dexterdog wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And misplaced identification of this system as capitalism.

What would you call it?

Crony capitalism. Capitalism is in the name, but that's not what it is at all.

Re: Remarkable starts implementing subscription plans for its cloud features

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Post by dexterdog »

FormerBandmate wrote: post #22
fartcannon wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What stops them from charging you and selling your data?

Being bad at collecting data. We badly need data regulation, the EU had the right idea with GDPR

Why do we need regulation? Then it just becomes a thing managed by the powers that be the way they want? If we have properly shepherded data then we need no regulation. If a Remarkable tablet knows you only by a token and encrypts all of your data with your key then the Remarkable company has no access to your data by default even if they host it.

Re: Remarkable starts implementing subscription plans for its cloud features

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Post by chrisweekly »

lilboiluvr69 wrote: post #24
chrisweekly wrote: post #12

I love my RM2. I don't have a problem w Remarkable wanting to charge for opt-in, value-add services. TLDR the hardware's great, the software's mediocre but steadily improving -- and extremely hackable -- and I'll continue to use and recommend it.

But these aren't additional services, they were services already provided. Screen sharing is not a cloud-based service. 8GB of cloud storage is not something I would expect to have to pay for.

Fair point. (I remember playing w screensharing a few months ago but haven't needed it.)
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