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Re: SpaceX becomes the second-ever unicorn company to reach a $100B valuation

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But, really, how much is a planet worth? The moon hasn't been profitable.

Yet. Whoever sets up the first moon resort is going to make a fortune.

They said the same about Concorde, 30 years later, forget supersonic travel, aviation is not available for major amount of population and airline run on thin margins.

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Hemodialysis costs Medicare $90,000 annually per patient.[1] Space kidneys could cost $500K and the government would probably still save money, especially if they're based on the patient's stem cells (or very close matches) so immunosuppressants aren't necessary. Kidneys don't mass much. We don't need super-cheap launch to make space kidneys worthwhile. [1] https://pharm.ucsf.edu/kidney/need/statistics

Is this something we could start doing tomorrow? Do we already know how to make space kidneys and just need the space in space to do it?

3D organ printing appears to be advancing rapidly and zero-g is thought to make things significantly easier but no, I don't think we're there yet. I was just responding to the previous comment, which claimed it would only be economic in mass production due to launch costs. I think that's incorrect due to the massive expenses incurred by dialysis patients. The cost of a kidney can be quite high and still save money compared to dialysis.

I used the cost of dialysis but it's not even just the dialysis itself, it's also dealing with the complications that come with it.

Re: SpaceX becomes the second-ever unicorn company to reach a $100B valuation

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> Didn't each shuttle cost several billion dollars to refurnish in between launches? No. The launch costs of the Space Shuttle include infrastructure and development cost. Original cost projections were based on up to 50 launches per year. With an actual launch cadence of just ~3 launches per year, accumulated costs skyrocketed when distributed over all launches. Another factor was the heat shielding, which didn't me…

Hemodialysis costs Medicare $90,000 annually per patient.[1] Space kidneys could cost $500K and the government would probably still save money, especially if they're based on the patient's stem cells (or very close matches) so immunosuppressants aren't necessary. Kidneys don't mass much. We don't need super-cheap launch to make space kidneys worthwhile. [1] https://pharm.ucsf.edu/kidney/need/statistics

> We don't need super-cheap launch to make space kidneys worthwhile.

It'd still be a giant gamble, because both progress in artificial kidneys and new methods for 3d-printing organs could make dialysis obsolete faster than space-grown organs could be available.

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