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Twitch Hack of 135 GB of Data Includes How Much Its Biggest Streamers Make

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Re: Twitch Hack of 135 GB of Data Includes How Much Its Biggest Streamers Make

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Post by Someone1234 »

Wingy wrote: post #51
yellow_lead wrote: post #38

The torrent is here if anyone wants to take a peek (for research / meta data purposes only of course) magnet:?xt=urn:btih:N5BLZ6XECNEHHARHJOVQAS4W7TWRXCSI&dn=twitch-leaks-part-one&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.stealth.si%3A80%2Fannounce

Be careful with this, they're probably watching peer lists, AFAIK it's illegal to download stolen data but IANAL.

> it's illegal to download stolen data

It is illegal to initially steal data.

But can you clarify which law would be violated by downloading it? And by "illegal" do you mean civil or criminal law?

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Post by causi »

Someone1234 wrote: post #71
Wingy wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Be careful with this, they're probably watching peer lists, AFAIK it's illegal to download stolen data but IANAL.

> it's illegal to download stolen data It is illegal to initially steal data. But can you clarify which law would be violated by downloading it? And by "illegal" do you mean civil or criminal law?

Copyright law, just at a baseline.

Re: Twitch Hack of 135 GB of Data Includes How Much Its Biggest Streamers Make

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Post by ravitation »

lijogdfljk wrote: post #66
janandonly wrote: post #2

I lament the fact that we need hacks like these to know who makes how much money. In countries like Norway, that kind of data is publicly available. It makes for less second-guessing and less suspiciousness. It always struck me as weird that the American Dream can best be lived in Scandinavia

Out of curiosity, how difficult is it to migrate to Scandinavia as an American? I've long felt the ideals i cherish as an American are just not the ideals of America. Maybe America isn't wrong, i'm just not American. I want: A country which values it's citizens health and happiness in measurable, quantifiable ways. A country which ensures it's citizens can be educated and follow their passions to financial success. A…

While I think Scandinavia might be ideal, one need not limit oneself to only those countries. Essentially all other developed nations are noticeably better at providing the things you've listed to the majority of their citizens than the United States.

Re: Twitch Hack of 135 GB of Data Includes How Much Its Biggest Streamers Make

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Post by i_haz_rabies »

FredPret wrote: post #63
coliveira wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If everyone is paying the same taxes, this suddenly is not a problem! It really is a problem only when some people pay a lot of taxes and others pay close to nothing.

You mean like how the top 10% pays 71% of the taxes and the bottom 10% are net receivers of government money?

That seems like it lands in the distribution ballpark the comment above was referring to, yes. The poorest 10% not paying very much in taxes is a feature of the system. And assuming your figures are correct, that 71% might look like a lot until you consider that the marginal tax rate for the very rich is very, very low in the United States compared to other developed countries, or even the United States prior to the Reagan administration.

Re: Twitch Hack of 135 GB of Data Includes How Much Its Biggest Streamers Make

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Post by nfRfqX5n »

ssalka wrote: post #75
tda wrote: post #67

And someone was really quick to make this: https://www.twitchearnings.com/

I expected to see Ninja at #1, surprised he is #46

it's only data from the last 2.5 years and paid out by twitch. he made a massive sum from microsoft when switching to their platform

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Post by ameister14 »

coliveira wrote: post #52
FredPret wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Scandinavia, while not exactly a nightmare, seems like the opposite of the American dream to me. In Scandinavia, you have the radical lack of privacy you just mentioned as a feature (!!!) as well as eye-watering taxes. Now, in the States, the government spies on you, but at least they don’t publish their findings.

If everyone is paying the same taxes, this suddenly is not a problem! It really is a problem only when some people pay a lot of taxes and others pay close to nothing.

Does Norway have a regressive tax system?

Re: Twitch Hack of 135 GB of Data Includes How Much Its Biggest Streamers Make

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Post by FredPret »

i_haz_rabies wrote: post #74
FredPret wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean like how the top 10% pays 71% of the taxes and the bottom 10% are net receivers of government money?

That seems like it lands in the distribution ballpark the comment above was referring to, yes. The poorest 10% not paying very much in taxes is a feature of the system. And assuming your figures are correct, that 71% might look like a lot until you consider that the marginal tax rate for the very rich is very, very low in the United States compared to other developed countries, or even the United States prior to the…

By what logic does that imply that the States should raise taxes on the rich?

The States are doing so much better than the rest of the world economically that we should follow the American example, not vice versa.

Re: Twitch Hack of 135 GB of Data Includes How Much Its Biggest Streamers Make

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Post by gmadsen »

janandonly wrote: post #2

I lament the fact that we need hacks like these to know who makes how much money. In countries like Norway, that kind of data is publicly available. It makes for less second-guessing and less suspiciousness. It always struck me as weird that the American Dream can best be lived in Scandinavia

I think that takes a fundamentally different society than the US to work. There are many many have-nots in the US and public knowledge like this would put legitimate threat of harm on many people.
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