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post #64

And HackerNews seems to be much faster as soon as FB is back up. Not sure if this is just me.

No, you're not the only one, I noticed the same thing. In fact, immediately after reading and checking that FB is up I came back to the HN tab, reload it and it was way faster compared to a few minutes ago when FB was still down.

Telegram was down for me too

WhatsApp is still down

Something else is actually going on…

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#72
post #62

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True for me as well. What would explain this? Does hn use some tracking from FB? Not trying to throw shade, but this is a surprising correlation.

Could it just be people pounding HN for any update on Facebook?

That's what I saw claimed, but that wouldn't go away the very second Facebook came online again

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#73
post #59

During the time Facebook (and related properties) have been unavailable, I can't help but feel a little better about the world. There is so much hate, arguments, misinformation, angry, and harmful messaging on FB platforms. It's nice to know all of that crap is just....gone. At least for a little while.

Talk about shooting the messanger. All the bad people still exist. Its not like fb the platform solely created them or that they will just go away if that particular platform disappeared.

it's not shooting the messenger because it's a curated experience to maximise ad revenue

and should be regulated as such

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#74

And HackerNews seems to be much faster as soon as FB is back up. Not sure if this is just me.

True for me as well. What would explain this? Does hn use some tracking from FB? Not trying to throw shade, but this is a surprising correlation.

All the devices on the planet with Facebook owned apps installed having no concept of backoff retries and people constantly refreshing trying to figure out why Facebook isn't loading was pegging the crap out of DNS resolvers, slowing down queries for other legitimate requests too.

Once they came back online and their DNS was resolving, it alleviated all that pressure.

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#75
Wow, I never realized Facebook was causing so much psychological discomfort in so many people. Either we are using different Facebooks or you guys need therapy and do not track plugin.

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#76
post #43
post #4

Nothing important for the world. But at least the employees could be able to enter the building.

That's a pretty ignorant statement. Facebook and its services, especially Whatsapp, are the most widespread form of communication in many countries. Particularly in poor/developing countries, hardly anything else is used because mobile Internet is available cheaply, unlike voice services and SMS. Whatsapp is indispensable there. See https://www.statista.com/statistics/291540/mobile-internet-u... for example.

That's an argument against the Facebook Empire, not an argument for it.

Economies and comms infra should not have a single point of failure - clearly.

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It does feel nice, like the oppressor has died, at least for a bit. Also fun to watch the scramble to get it back online, would be nice if it never came back :)

>the oppressor It’s a website that shows you what your friends are doing. That’s it. People said the same things about television

It's so much more and if you spend a significant amount of time on HN then you know it.

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#78
post #36

I'm seeing an unusual amount of reddit style small comments on this outage, which I find strange. They're short and in the vein of "Facebook is down: good" or "Facebook is back up: damn nothing good lasts forever" I understand the distain for Facebook as a business, but still this is pretty low effort.

Yes, and as a submission I don't really see the point in it? Especially when it's not even a status page permalink (couldn't be, that was down too apparently). Post mortems very welcome of course. It's just karma bait as far as I can tell, and as you say, almost entirely uninteresting comments.

There are/were a couple of other at least briefly front page submissions around it of e.g. twitter/reddit potentially-leaked minor bits of info, and krebsonsecurity post; I'm sure the few informed more interesting comments would've found their way to those without a 'it is down, here is a link that will soon be up again' mega-thread.

Which leads me to a meta-point on this submission: I've flagged it, because AIUI it's customary that the initial 'down' submission gets renamed 'was down', rather than having the two 'down'/'up' threads.

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#80

During the time Facebook (and related properties) have been unavailable, I can't help but feel a little better about the world. There is so much hate, arguments, misinformation, angry, and harmful messaging on FB platforms. It's nice to know all of that crap is just....gone. At least for a little while.

Your experience must be very different from mine. My Facebook feed is full of interesting pictures from my friends. It's only when I visit HN that I find lots of hatred and bile... for Facebook.
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