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Can Boom Supersonic Succeed Where the Concorde Failed?

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Re: Can Boom Supersonic Succeed Where the Concorde Failed?

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post #29

"Boom is leveraging advances in engine design that yield greater fuel efficiency, which will mean cheaper ticket prices. But they aren’t stopping there. Boom plans to use fuel made from carbon removed from the atmosphere, meaning that supersonic travel will be carbon neutral from day one." You can have cheap tickets and don't give a shit about the climate or you can claim you use extra expensive synfuels made from ca…

I assume Boom will be owning the global IP on the carbon neutral fuel. because otherwise all other planes will equally carbon neutral.

Re: Can Boom Supersonic Succeed Where the Concorde Failed?

#72

Can anybody tell how such a plane will sound like over land? Growing up in Europe in the 90s, we regularly saw fighter jets doing maneuver and we called the noise they make a sonic boom: a loud, scratching and thundering noise that seems to come from the wrong direction. But I've also heard that planes almost never flew supersonic over civilian areas and an actual sonic boom sounds like a double clap, and is much mor…

I think you were just hearing the engines, brother. The boom is two loud claps like you say and you might be worried about your Windows.

Re: Can Boom Supersonic Succeed Where the Concorde Failed?

#74
post #33

Am I the only one here thinking this is an unwanted future ? Aerospace is already profiting to few rich people on earth and represents 2% of global emissions and this is saying "well we need to go faster consuming yet huge amount of fuel" for the wealthiest. Please stop these technos solutionists gadget and start to think real problems like the climate crisis.

This is 100% correct. The last thing we need is more inefficient aviation for the super-rich.

Would you have said the same thing about the Tesla roadster 20 years ago?

Re: Can Boom Supersonic Succeed Where the Concorde Failed?

#75
post #27

> Boom is building for reliability from day one, and by simplifying the design of the plane and using software solutions wherever possible, they should be able to avoid many of the pitfalls that the Concorde faced. Oh boy. Given softwares track record when it comes to reliability and safety I think that's a mistake. I do trust engineers, I don't trust software engineers.

Good, finally an aerospace company that considers reliability and uses software. I have to tell my engineering colleagues, they will be happy to hear they can stop drawing on paper. Also that they can replace the sextants for navigation.

Re: Can Boom Supersonic Succeed Where the Concorde Failed?

#76
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean? Airbus planes have been using software very heavily ( fly by wire for instance) since the first models, and recent ones ( A350) have pretty serious server rooms onboard. Just because Boeing are incompetent and criminally negligible doesn't mean that airplanes shouldn't use any software.

There's a view that over reliance on software contributed to the total loss of flight AF447 (since pilots were not sufficiently experienced in how to fly the plane in the various fallback modes to be able to react appropriately in an emergency).

That's more of a training issue than a software issue.

Re: Can Boom Supersonic Succeed Where the Concorde Failed?

#77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is 100% correct. The last thing we need is more inefficient aviation for the super-rich.

Would you have said the same thing about the Tesla roadster 20 years ago?

No, because physics. Electric engines are twice more energy efficient than their ICE cousins.

Supersonic jets are 2-3 times less energy efficient than 'normal' jets, and all methods to make them carbon neutral can be applied to both modes of transport.

Re: Can Boom Supersonic Succeed Where the Concorde Failed?

#78

Can supersonic aircraft be as big as the 747 etc jumbos without much worse energy requirements? Or does the fuel consumption rise by a factor? I can see the Concorde had almost mach2 as top speed? Is there another Sonic boom at mach2,3 etc? Unless it's a fuel efficient mach3, there's not much point to it, most flying time improvements should be done on checking in and boarding, the flight itself for flights less than…

The boom isn't from crossing the barrier; it's from being at that high speed. A plane traveling at Mach 1.5 cross-country will leave a boom at every point along its travel

Re: Can Boom Supersonic Succeed Where the Concorde Failed?

#79
post #33

Am I the only one here thinking this is an unwanted future ? Aerospace is already profiting to few rich people on earth and represents 2% of global emissions and this is saying "well we need to go faster consuming yet huge amount of fuel" for the wealthiest. Please stop these technos solutionists gadget and start to think real problems like the climate crisis.

It's always entertaining to see techno-luddites on HN - where the average person is wealthy and probably drives a gasoline car for most daily activities. This is like criticizing the automobile back when only the ultra wealthy could afford them and most people still road around on horse or foot.

Basically your post reads like this meme:

https://pics.me.me/we-should-improve-society-somewhat-yet-yo...

Re: Can Boom Supersonic Succeed Where the Concorde Failed?

#80
post #29

"Boom is leveraging advances in engine design that yield greater fuel efficiency, which will mean cheaper ticket prices. But they aren’t stopping there. Boom plans to use fuel made from carbon removed from the atmosphere, meaning that supersonic travel will be carbon neutral from day one." You can have cheap tickets and don't give a shit about the climate or you can claim you use extra expensive synfuels made from ca…

Cheaper than Concord is not cheap in absolute terms.
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