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The Linux Distributions of 1992

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Re: The Linux Distributions of 1992

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Does anyone remember Win4Lin? It would run Windows 98 as a process and translate system calls to their Linux equivalent. It was very convient for testing my websites in IE. And I swear it was faster and more stable than running Windows on bare hardware. And when it did blue screen, I could have it back up in a matter of seconds.

I remember it but it was no competition to VMware which I had been a user of since 1999.

Re: The Linux Distributions of 1992

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Crazy how much old software had ties to universities ( tamu Linux, BSD, wuftpd ). Are there any modern examples of this or have universities gotten out of the software game

It was an era of 80s software (msdos, etc) being run on 90s hardware, and the 90s hardware provided capabilities generations beyond what the software typically used. So you'd boot single task single user non-networked msdos to run a text mode eprom programmer, but that was done on early 90s hardware that could easily run multitasking, multiuser, networked GUI linux if you'd bother to install it.

Meanwhile the uni got huge donations of hardware and software licenses from now legacy unix providers. The senior EE students would do VLSI design on sunos workstations (sunos was from the oldest versions of solaris pizza box era back when Sun made hardware). Well, if my 386 desktop is 50 times faster and four times the memory of the sunos workstation, why do they have all this fabulous OS and application software and I'm stuck on singletasking msdos or sometimes windows3.11 works and sometimes it doesn't? Why not do TCP/IP and fancy GUIs on linux using the same hardware?

Re: The Linux Distributions of 1992

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Does anyone remember Win4Lin? It would run Windows 98 as a process and translate system calls to their Linux equivalent. It was very convient for testing my websites in IE. And I swear it was faster and more stable than running Windows on bare hardware. And when it did blue screen, I could have it back up in a matter of seconds.

Yes. Win4linux was the best way to run windows in linux for games back then. Even better than the real thing. It was better than vmware.

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SLS Linux was my first distro. It was probably early 1993 when I first installed it, on a 386SX/20 with 3 megs of RAM. I think it was on 12 or 16 floppies.

I ordered a set of SLS floppies from some random person I learned about via Usenet news groups (comp.os.minix and later comp.os.linux). It used Linux kernel version 0.99pl12 or thereabouts. I had previously been using Coherent Unix (with the enormous compendium in a thick book). I was first setting up my home NFS server using NE2000 Ethernet cards to try all that out. This was all run on a Gateway 386 @ 25MHz which s…

I also used Coherent for a bit. Its documentation was excellent! I remember the book with the shell on the cover: http://gunkies.org/wiki/File:Coherent_4_print_ad.jpg

Re: The Linux Distributions of 1992

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Around that time, I vaguely recall Linux switching from DWARF to ELF, some kind of libc5 (libc4 ??) to libc6 migration in the the ecosystem and a Sanyo CDROM driver that needed some source code edits to work for my model causing me endless grief as a kid exploring beyond DOS. Great times!

It was a.out to ELF, there was separate stabs to DWARF migration afaik related to how debugging info was stored.

For me, the biggest migration pain was being a heavy KDE user in the middle of GCC 2.95 -> GCC 3.0 migration, with my Debian unstable (in between woody and sarge, iirc) getting into state where half of the C++ code was compiled with 2.95, and half with 3.0...

Re: The Linux Distributions of 1992

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've always wondered why no Linux app store has risen to prominence? Can one make a living selling their Linux applications to end users?

It's quite simple, the market for paid end user applications on Linux is tiny. Canonical was saying years ago that they were going to add paid applications to the Snap Store but seemingly never got around to it. Elementary's App Center has integrated payments but they are optional and ~99% of users do not pay anything. You can certainly make a living selling a cross platform application that supports Linux, but it's…

I think an app store would be a great location to not have optional payments for open source software if developers do not want it. Users can choose to go get and compile the source, download a third-party binary and keep it updated themselves, or pay for it and know it's directly from the authors and automatically updated and getting a path to support and the interested customers know the only people submitting reviews are people who paid for it and not drive by opinionated users like is common in open source software.

Re: The Linux Distributions of 1992

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I recall being in a B. Dalton Bookstore in the mid-90's. I picked up a book that had "Linux" on the cover. In the cover it had a floppy disk or two. Something felt very wrong to me. You can't give away an entire operation system! Perhaps this was just some "free for educational purposes" thing? I went home and fired up WebCrawler on AOL and came across Yggdrasil. I had experienced Unix on an SGI system. And I was ver…

I used Linux for the first time around 1993, and had it installed on a 386SX(?) with a satisfying amber monochrome screen, both of which I got for less than $100 total, IIRC.

Anyway, I had a friend whose mother ran a small data processing business, and it was known in our circle of nerd friends that she was in possession of a "real Unix machine". And what a machine it was - a beige box the size of a small car, with intriguing lights and cables and powerful hums and clicks. Anyway, I told her about this "Linux" thing, and she dismissed it as fantasy, so I brought my computer around to her office and gave her a demo.

The only comment I recall her making was something like, "Well, looks like you got yourself a $100 Unix machine." I could tell in her eyes, though, that she was feeling the world shift, heavily, from one epoch to the next.

Re: The Linux Distributions of 1992

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I recall being in a B. Dalton Bookstore in the mid-90's. I picked up a book that had "Linux" on the cover. In the cover it had a floppy disk or two. Something felt very wrong to me. You can't give away an entire operation system! Perhaps this was just some "free for educational purposes" thing? I went home and fired up WebCrawler on AOL and came across Yggdrasil. I had experienced Unix on an SGI system. And I was ver…

I had a teacher I was talking to (he looked kinda young to me) and he said he remembered when he first used linux when it had come out. What was mind blowing to me was that it was in his lifetime right after I was born.
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